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No pistol? Well, there goes any hope I had for this movie....

PostPosted:Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:37 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/559/5 ... l">here</a>

No pistol? Well, there goes any hope I had for this movie....</div>

PostPosted:Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:13 pm
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>You're upset because the toyline won't have transformers turning into pistols?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:12 am
by Ishamael
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Megatron wasn't a pistol technically................................... Ah hell, who am I fooling?</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:58 am
by Guybrush Threepwood
<div style='font: 11pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Heh. Well, that Murphy guy seems like enough of a pistol himself. Anyway, that was always the stupidest transformation of all.</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:11 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>No, that Megatron won't transform into one. If you're trying to do a "real" Transformers film, it's gonna SUUUCK</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:13 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Stupid or not, Megatron is the main bad guy and has been transforming into that pistol for 20 years, you just don't change it. Then again, the original X-Men somewhat survived the changing of the unis, so there's a SLIGHT chance for this one, but not much</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:11 pm
by Guybrush Threepwood
<div style='font: 11pt Arial; text-align: left; '>True. I guess I'm just not much of a Transformers fan in general</div>

PostPosted:Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:33 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>My fav growing up and I'm getting more into it again as I go through the seasons (on hold 'cause of Naruto). I mean, why change it? It's not like making it realistic is beneficial in any way.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:58 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>From what I gather from the article, it sounds like the guys don't want any Hollywood and marketting bullshit, but that means he's opting for believable realism, too. This is, in fact, a good thing.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:11 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It's not even on IMDB yet. Making any sort of conclusions at this point is just silly.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:34 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But changing what is it and why it became popular is incredibly risky and very, very rarely turns out even decent, nontheless well</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:35 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>This was an interview with the producer and my bitching is based on his direct quotes, not editorial comments. IMDB is better than that?</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:38 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Not to mention he said "nothing with the beasts, dinos, and shit". He'd better not mean the Dinobots, they're among the most popular Transformers, period. Why do you think they survived the movie?</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:28 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I pointed out that it's not on IMDB to demonstrate how immature the project is - IMDB regularly has movies listed that have a title, a director, a principal actor and nothing else. Transformers hasn't even hit real pre-production yet, and you're already writing it off. That is what I called silly.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:29 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Would you even bother to watch X-Men if they started wearing yellow spandex? Or would you laugh and call it some B-rated throwback? Sometimes you have to give up the unrealistic legacy bullshit that's been there for 30 years.</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:20 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That didn't seem to hurt Spiderman or Superman....</div>

PostPosted:Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:23 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You're right, it's in conceptual stages. But that's a bad start, man. They're going to be basing the script and ensuring the director is of the same basic wavelength, thus, highly unlikely they'll waver unless the fans bitch endlessly. Not a complete write-off yet, but a ton of concern</div>

PostPosted:Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:35 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>One, Spiderman and Superman's costumes are far more iconic than the X-Men's. Two, having one guy in a costume is okay; having an entire team all in their own uniqe costume looks silly if put in a realistic environment.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:53 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I actually stared at "uniqe" for a few seconds, knew it looked wrong, but I convinced myself it was the correct spelling. (Unique. Just to prove I know how to spell it.)</div>

PostPosted:Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:47 pm
by Nixon
<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>No Grimlock!? Those bastards! Fuck plausibility, give me my Dinobots!</div>

PostPosted:Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:50 pm
by Nixon
<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>It was okay. A pistol can shoot, at least. How threatening is a giant camera, or a bunch of oversized cassettes?</div>

PostPosted:Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:46 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Umm, Soundwave? Blaster we can do without, but Soundwave is an essential Decepticon, right after Megatron and Starscream</div>

PostPosted:Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:47 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's what I'm getting at. Why the hell change such important, popular parts of the TV series when that's what made it a possibility of them making a movie in the first place?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:15 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I still disagree. I would have loved to see their original costumes with some minor alterations to make them more "realistic" (perhaps the addition of black to Wolverine's to lessen the yellow, for instance). That way, you still basically have the individuality of the characters through their look</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:41 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Eh...spandex looks *really* stupid in live action. It only works in comic books. Not to mention it seems to be a quickly fading superhero fashion statement.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:03 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Not to mention everyone looking different. It would look like a circus.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:47 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Like Spiderman? There's a difference when it's an iconic character, and the X-Men aren't up with Spiderman or Superman, but they're not far off. It's the same thing with certain Transformers, you just can't change what they are or you lose the core audience, the ones who you're making the film for</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:49 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It wouldn't help give them any personality?</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:05 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>If you want that personality to be "Hey, look at me, I'm wearing a ridiculous unitard" then I guess so. Personally, I would have just gone with SWAT style clothes.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:06 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Except that most of the X-Men haven't had consistent uniforms over the years, and often are just in plain clothes. Last I saw in the books, they were all wearing pretty standard military looking uniforms.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:57 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Yet another reason why Naruto is awesome!</div>

PostPosted:Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:24 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Did you...? Did he...? Did he just...? Yes, I believe he just brought up Naruto in a thread about X-Men costumes.</div>

PostPosted:Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:52 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think at the end of the day, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one</div>

PostPosted:Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:53 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, when a show's that damned good, it's OK to bring it up whenever you can :-)</div>