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Lucas gets AFI Lifetime Achievement award..

PostPosted:Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:16 pm
by Zeus
Does he deserve it? I think so. Anyone who creates a film that changes Hollywood deserves it (Speilberg, Oz creator, Welles, etc.)

http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.as ... j_id=48954

PostPosted:Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:25 pm
by Kupek
I think that's a no-brainer. The influence of Star Wars is obvious, but he's also been behind major advancements in related technology.

PostPosted:Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:22 pm
by the Gray
Forget Star Wars.

THX, 5.1 and 6.1 sound exist because of Lucas. They've done more for Hollywood than American Graffiti, SW's or Indiana Jones. (Willow and Labrinyth don't count, although I love them)

So yeah, for his innovations Lucas totally deserves it. Not for his movies though.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:18 am
by Zeus
Star Wars started the entire idea of blockbusters, made Fox into a studio to be recokoned with, and is easily one of the most influencial movies of all time, so he'd almost get it even for that one movie alone. Not to mention THX mastering and remastering are the industry standard, ILM is still the measuring stick for any effects house, Pixar was started - and sold by, in maybe the worst move ever - by Lucas which, in turn, revolutionized 3D animation, and he completely revolutionized both music and sound effects usage in films as we know it (starting with Star Wars, of course).

He'd done so much on many different levels that both you and Kupek touched on as well as some none of us probably remembered. And that's not including the other media he's been rather heavily involved in, including LucasArts which was not allowed, in the beginning, that is, to even make licenced stuff (ie. Star Wars or Indiana Jones), which is how we ended up with Sam and Max, Day of the Tenticle, and Grim Fandango (among others). See that "lack of originality" post in Gamethought for an interview with one of the original LucasArts game designers (he just did Psychonauts) for a little more detail.

Of course, he's had a helluva lot of good people behind him to do all this. At the end of the day, he only knows how to write (that's debatable), direct (that's not; see American Graffitti), and edit films (he's considered by many one of the best editors around). Those are his skills, but he's smart enough to surround himself with people who invent these things and gives them the means, direction, and even provides some of the vision to do it (Lucas: "What if we cleaned up Star Wars to make the video much nicer to catch up to today's technological advances?"; voila, we have THX).

We may not agree with everything he does, but he is a brilliant businessman and a helluva leader. That's why he's a multi-billionaire with a ton of influence in Hollywood rather than a director working on the fringe of the studio system. Well, that and he had the foresight to include all merchandising and intellectual property rights to Star Wars as a franchise in his original director's fee, plus 40% of the gross :-) That would NEVER happen nowadays, but back then, that meant nothing.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:45 am
by Ishamael
Absolutely it's a nobrainer. We can nitpick the guy all we want, but denying this guy has left a huge legacy is sort of like being a member of the Flat Earth Society.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:03 am
by Nev
This is true. Though I for one wish Hollywood would make a few more pre-Star-Wars early 70's-style human dramas like Chinatown and a few less movies where things blow up randomly.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:33 pm
by Zeus
Mental wrote:This is true. Though I for one wish Hollywood would make a few more pre-Star-Wars early 70's-style human dramas like Chinatown and a few less movies where things blow up randomly.
They're starting to move away from the blockbusters VERY slowly since their takes have dimished a little bit and they've started to realize that it's better to have a $40 mil budget and make $60 mil at the boxoffice (before DVDs) rather than risk $200 mil and pray to make back $250. There's still a market, but you're seeing the smaller budget stuff so much more than you did, say, 5 years ago.

If you want these human dramas, look more at the indie films. They get a lot more play now and you can see the trailers at Apple or Yahoo all the time. Then you at least have an idea of what to look for

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:59 pm
by Nev
True. I dunno, I ought to get to the movies more often anyway. I think I saw, like, four, in the entirety of last year.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:07 pm
by Zeus
Check out the trailers, you might be convinced to head to a local indie theatre if you start looking at the smaller films that may fit more of the idea of what you want

PostPosted:Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:50 pm
by Nev
I usually do go to those when I see movies lately, but these days I'm too busy.