According to EGM, 19% of PSX2 owners own a copy of GTA:VC, 12% of GC owners own Zelda, and 34% of X-Box owners own Halo. Interesting.

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>According to EGM, 19% of PSX2 owners own a copy of GTA:VC, 12% of GC owners own Zelda, and 34% of X-Box owners own Halo. Interesting.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>And there are how many PS2 owners? 50 million plus? Or is that in the US alone?</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I was more interested in the XBox 2 backward compatibility discussion.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>*snicker* I don't even think the PSOne has reached 50 mil in US yet. They just reached 50 mil worldwide with the PS2 a few months ago</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>They've been talking about that since the X-Box was released though. I wouldn't be surprised.</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Switch from nVidea to ATI might put a small hitch in the works. But I know didly about the architecture/programming so maybe it's nothing.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Basically confirmed by the X-Box EB rep at Ian's store. They'll know for sure in October, but the guy strongly hinted towards it</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I was asking if that percentage was for the US or the world, smarty.</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>LOL, like a frickin Rep would know the thing hasn't been BUILT yet.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>There might be some legal issues with that since nVidia and ATi are competitors.</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>exactly, which means backwards compatibility is not a given. If they try to emulate with software what nVidea's architecture does I wouldn't be surprised if a lawsuit popped up.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Due to my hatred of Xbox, I hope Xbox2 isn't backwards compatible and that all owners of Xbox2 get a severe case of inner thigh rash. =8^D</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't hate the Cinderbox, I'm just not 'blown away' by it like others are. Graphics are admitadly superior, so what? I'm not a graphics whore.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't even care about the XBox. The only game that I'm interested in is KOTOR, but, wait, it's on PC in November. Oh darn.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Halo and Project Gotham Racing rule as well. It also gets the best of the ports not only for graphics, but they usually get extras as well (ie. Silent Hill 2)</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think I'm one of the three people in North America who doesn't care that much about Halo.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Great one-player or co-op game (even more fun co-op), but it's dull with only 4-players in multi</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Hell, I thought Halo CAME with the X-Box.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>In some packages, it does</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Project Gotham = aweful arcade game, nice eye candy. I've played a game similar to its style - Porsche Challenge from like 1997. Control sucks.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You've obviously never gotten into it. Only GT can come close to the depth of that game. If the cars were customizable or a little more unique in handling, it would be the best racing game ever</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I don't know what you've been snorting but GT and PG are two different games. One is a sim and the other is an arcade racer.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>So, why is this news?</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Unlikely, XBox games use DirectX, and the odds of ATI's cards not fully supporting DirectX are as likely as the sun not rising tomorrow.</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>I feel your pain. Metroid Prime, shamefully, didn't really do it for me.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah I was really feeling that one either, I'm curious about how those games sold actually, Zelda & Metroid.</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>You must be playing with some boring people! :) Also: the single-player game sucks!</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The vast majority of the people who own Halo bought it, it was just the Adrenaline pack that came with it. It's still quite impressive</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Actually, it won't make a dif what card they use because of Direct X, like you said. That was basically confirmed by the Xbox rep for the EB here</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The depth the Kudos system gives Project Gotham gives it so much more depth than the other arcady racers that only GT surpasses it, and only because you can customize cars</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Zelda sold 1.1 million in its first two weeks, so you can bet it's around 1.3-1.5 now. Metroid was at 800,000 after a couple of weeks if my memory serves me right and is probably close to a mil now. And Prime freakin' ruled</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>lol, we played Halo for a bit 4-players then switched to Timesplitters 2 'cause it was so much more fun. I adored the co-op mode though, amazingly fun</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>The physics in PG is like molasses in January. And you're saying that GT is only better because you can customize cars? Your bad taste movies carries over to games, dude.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I've put well over 40 hours into both games. The gameplay of PGR is actually better IMO, but the customizability and realism of GT makes it slightly better overall.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>That opinion is surely among the least common in regards to both games. You get to wear a scarlet letter in now BOTH MusicMovies and Gamethought. You're marked, Zeus.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>[gasp]</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>How much have you played PGR?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>A week. Borrowed my friend's Xbox. I put about 8 hours into it. Weak ass game. GT from PSX had more depth.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I would agree, except the gameplay wasn't. It was just straight racing with some good strategy (remember, I adore GT). In PGR, you did all that but also had more things to accomplish (and not hit walls), so that part of it was deeper. GT was deeper overall, though</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>I still don't get this obsession with splitting your TV into four tiny windows. Fuck that...I'm down with a PC multiplayer any day.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'd love to have it not split screen, but the simple fact of the matter is that PC FPS players have no life and are just too good for the casual gamers</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>Aw c'mon don't you like going through the same fucking rooms and areas over and over again while wading through a story that's about as good as shoving a gopher up your ass....the only way that game is fun on the missions is when you play on legendary....and even then it's easy as shit</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>No life? You've obviously never been to a LAN party.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>*chuckles* You dork....</div>