Holy shit...now I really know what PA was talking about: FF:CC -requires- a GBA for EACH player JUST TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME IN MULTIPLAYER!!!

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Wow...what a load of fucking bullshit! I was considering to get this game, but now... Wow, I don't think I could bring myself to buy a game that would cost more money than fucking Steel Battalion!! Again, let's recap the cost:

<img src=http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030825l.gif>

When I first saw this, I thought PA was just talking about the FFTA link-up, but no, they really want you to buy GBA to use as CONTROLLERS?! WHAT?!?!?! What the FUCK is wrong with a standard GameCube controller?! Then even PLANNED on putting that "feature" in the game, but they SCRAPPED it!! WHAT?!

Wow...that's going to be one less reason to buy a GameCube...</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's not like you couldn't play Secret of Mana one player....</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Who cares? A GC is $70 used. If that's still going to deter you from buying the system, I'm sure you can cope.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>I don't buy a multiplayer game to play it single player.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Of course, it is assumed that the game for a GC will require a GC, a TV, a controller, chair, house, food, and possibly three hookers. However, it is NOT assumed that to play multiplayer would require up to 3 "controllers" that cost $100. If you believe that, then I have a N-Gage to sell you.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They're being perfectly up front about this. They're trying something new. If you don't like what they're doing, stop bitching and move on.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>A game can have multiplayer options and not be a "multiplayer" game.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I think it's a great idea, and I hope it succeeds (financially, because I think it's obvious that it's fun). I just won't be able to join in the fun.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>At least Steel Battalion had a use for its massive control set. This whole deal with the GBA is pointless. Pure marketing bullshit.</div>

[kent]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>exactly, i've played Madden for 6 years and never played it multiplayer.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Of course, but there's a difference between a game that is obviously multiplayer and one that is obviously single player.</div>

[KluYa]

<div style='font: 10pt "Stylus BT"; text-align: left; '>Cut and paste from my friend's post at GameFAQS. I had a good laugh at this.

In A.D. 2003
Mockery was beginning.
Captain: What happen ?
Mechanic: Somebody set up us the poorly designed taco shape game system.
Operator: We get signal.
Captain: What !
Operator: N-Gage turn on. I say turn on! What this little button stuck!
Captain: It broken !!
Nokia CEO: How are you gentlemen !!
Nokia CEO: All your cash are belong to us.
Nokia CEO: You are on the way to subpar gameplay, eyestrain, carpal tunnel syndrome, and ridicule by you friends and family.
Captain: What you say !!
Nokia CEO: You have no chance to look cool make your time.
Nokia CEO: HA HA HA HA ....
Captain: Take off every N-Gage !!
Captain: You know what you doing.
Captain: Move N-Gage...to garbage can.
Captain: For great justice.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Until we see exactly how they're using the GBA as a controller, perhaps you should withhold judgment? Wait, no, it's more fun to just bitch.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Taking multiplayer design into consideration is not a sign it is a multiplayer game, it is a sign that they're doing more than just enabling controller ports 2-4.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Have you played FFCC multiplayer?</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's as multiplayer as Mana was</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>It's probably the same way the Dreamcast's controller screen was. Yet again, here's ANOTHER thing that the Dreamcast was better at than every other console.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>SoM didn't cost anything to play multiplayer.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Maybe we can do less bitching based on totally uninformed assumptions, hmm?</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I was mad cuz I wanted to play it multiplayer and now I have to get my friend to get his own GBA. Oh well. (ps, I mentioned this in the multi-player game thread we had, you just didn't look hard enough!) ;)</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Also keep in mind that other player's can join in and out of the game at any time. You don't have to start the game multi-player. That sounds like an added feature, not a "multi-player" game</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Okay fine. Whatever this fantastic fucking technology is going to do, I'm NOT going to spend $200+ on the game. End of fucking story.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>And I ask again, why the hell aren't there any multiplayer RPGs? I can count them on a single hand, maybe even a single finger. Is it that fucking rare of a concept?</div>

[kent]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>he means that if it's as multiplayer as SoM than it's not obviously multi-player because SoM wasn't.</div>

[kent]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>because the majority of RPG players are loners??? personally, i play RPGs like i'd read a book, i don't want someone reading with me because everyone reads at their own pace.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What I meant was that it is a game that CAN be played multi, but it's not mandatory. It's simply a great option, not a requirement</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That was easy enough.</div>