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  • Hey, check out the Chronology FAQ.  I didn't realize just how complex the storyline for Chrono Trigger/Cross was.  Seems like its on par with NGE.

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.

 #39543  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:37 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>And you complain about others posting here while wasted.</div>

 #39544  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:38 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You obviously haven't played the game, or you really are extremely dense.</div>

 #39546  by SineSwiper
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:43 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Yes, I've played the game, and you're a fucking moron for not knowing what I'm talking about. (One pompous insult deserves another...)</div>

 #39547  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:18 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Alright, so you're just incredibly dense =)</div>

 #39548  by Zeus
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:24 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Bah, you're all mad, mad I tell you. Chrono Cross, along with FF9, were the saving graces of RGPs on the PSX for Square. CC was an incredible game and a truly worthy sequel ( like FF9 should have been for FF6)</div>

 #39551  by Gentz
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:42 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>How do you sleep at night?</div>

 #39552  by Lox
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:58 pm
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>With a blindfold and inside a sound-proof box? :)</div>

 #39553  by Eric
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:29 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>He was a joke of a villian, literally, he was like an insane clown, ever notice how he was always laughing? That wasn't an evil laugh that was him laughing at his performance which nobody else found funny.</div>

 #39554  by Eric
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:29 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>This from somebody who refers to alchohol and weed as social enhancements.....Yes Seeker it was a fake Mexican accent....</div>

 #39555  by Flip
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:54 pm
<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>I hate to come to Seekers defense, but i must admit that i thought it was more of a Carribean/Jamaican accent, not Mexican or Spanish.</div>

 #39556  by Gentz
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:10 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Actually, it was a Hawaiian surfer accent - but, yeah, definitely not Mexican.</div>

 #39558  by Zeus
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:20 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Generally, on my right side, I seem to sleep better that way, but I can also fall asleep while one my left side. But I've always got a great, beautiful woman to share my bed. But what does this have to do with the greatness that is Chrono Cross?</div>

 #39559  by Zeus
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:22 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Kefka is easily the greatest RPG villian, bar none, in any game by any company. I wanted to throttle that fucker every time I saw him.....</div>

 #39562  by SineSwiper
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:25 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Okay, Kefka was in no way a badass. Nobody thought his jokes were funny. Nobody laughed with him. He wasn't tough. He was an idiot. He was cheesy and corny. If I met him on the street, I could beat him up. He was probably one of the worst villians of all time.</div>

 #39563  by SineSwiper
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:30 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Storyline aside, how do you not acknowledge the great gameplay?</div>

 #39564  by Don
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:42 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It isn't all that great, but at least if you do auto elements it forces you to be creative. Of course you can just buy 20 Healing Wind/Heal Alls and make every battle in the game trivial, minus the ones that can instantly kill you from full health (Dark Serge)</div>
 #39565  by Flip
 Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:56 pm
<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>Also, he reminded me of my own characters; i.e. starting out as a wuss but always seeking/killing for eventual ultimate power. Not a lot of enemies level as you level, they just are always easy at the beginning and hard at the end with no explanation as to how they got so much more powerful. Kefka's actions and characterizations did have a knack for enraging the player, by the end you WANTED to kill him, which is hard to say for a lot of video game enemies (Lavos and Yu Yevon anyone?).

In addition, the last fight against him was spectacular for the SNES. The random chosen order made things interesting, as did the die once and your dead/replaced rule. The music was great and as you made your way up the totem the echo effect got better and better which made spells like white and meteor sound awesome. Even your own attacks like the atma weapon and Blitz sounded sweet with the echo. Kefka also had a few inetersting 'his spell only' kind of spells that were cool to see. Hell, even his angel looking form was cool to look at.

Dont forget his laugh... you know that even if you heard it now you;d resognize it as the Kefka laugh. Seph comes close, but other than him there is no other last boss that comes close to being as memorable as Kefka.</div>

 #39569  by Zeus
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:25 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What, praytell, was the problem with the storyline?</div>

 #39570  by Eric
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:28 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Are you fuckin serious?!</div>

 #39571  by Gentz
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:49 am
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>You're a sick man, Zeus. A sad, sick, sick man : )</div>
 #39573  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:54 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If you're in the mood for oh, say, taking a walk around the country side from city to city:

<a href="http://www.ffonline.com/media/music/ff6 ... rra.mid</a>


Or if you are perhaps in the mood for going to the opera:

<a href="http://www.ffonline.com/media/music/ff6 ... rre.mid</a>


It might be that your Ex girlfriend who was in a Coma for 10+ years just died when you failed to summon a Phoenix:

<a href="http://www.ffonline.com/media/music/ff6 ... eal.mid</a>


A walk through a haunted forest?

<a href="http://www.ffonline.com/media/music/ff6 ... est.mid</a>


Or perhaps you're just in the mood to go fight God =)

<a href="http://www.ffonline.com/media/music/ff6 ... d</a></div>

 #39574  by SineSwiper
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:06 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>The problem was that the accent was so fake that it sounded more like a Mexican thug accent. It's like calling J-Lo an American Indian.</div>

 #39575  by Derithian
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:37 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>dude. I'm on the west coast....in no way is that a mexican thug accent. that's like saying mozart sounds like def leopard. or that you dissaprove of drugs. or that seeker is smart. or that zeus has good taste in movies. or that ish doesn't have lox locked in the basement closet.</div>

 #39577  by Gentz
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:42 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>As insane as it sounds, I have come to doubt the existence of an overwhelming cholo population in Louisville ; )</div>

 #39579  by Gentz
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:59 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Sci-fi is the most respected of all the sub-genres, and I'm certainly a fan, but XG's writing was just poorly executed.</div>

 #39580  by Zeus
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:32 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Unlike some here, I actually like to hear other people's opinions</div>

 #39582  by Eric
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:44 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It was overly complex for no reason. It killed off most of our beloved main characters from the first one, save Magus.</div>

 #39583  by ManaMan
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:51 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>The gameplay *was* good in that game... I think that's why I played it until the end.</div>

 #39586  by Lox
 Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:52 pm
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey, it's not by my choice. He's a nut job.</div>

 #39587  by Zeus
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:24 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>And? You do realize that it is this type of thinking that gets us recycled drudge for storylines, right? I thought that they did an excellent job of tying in the old game with the new one (the orphanage bit in particular) while still creatin' a completely new game</div>

 #39588  by Zeus
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:26 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That motherfucker fucked everything up every time he showed up. I wanted his ass very, very dead. He popped in and out of the story (in the light world, at least) at just the right times to really mess you up or to toy with you. They used him brilliantly</div>

 #39589  by Stephen
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:12 am
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm sorry, you must be talking about someone else. Not that dress gown-wearing fag who couldn't laugh properly on account of all the cocks in his mouth.</div>

 #39591  by SineSwiper
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:34 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>You guys are simply delusional, stuck in your 10-year-old childhood fantasies.</div>

 #39592  by Eric
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:48 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I wouldn't exactly say that....in fact I wouldn't say that at all. But I just didn't find Kefka cool.</div>

 #39593  by Kupek
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:01 am
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That wasn't Magus.</div>

 #39594  by Zeus
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:52 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yes, of course I am. How silly of me to not have noticed. I apologize profusely for my oversight. It's unthinkable that I actually enjoy such "primative" game-making, it's like enjoying a film made before 1991. If you find it in your heart, please forgive me and my silly, archaic ways.</div>

 #39596  by Gentz
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:35 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>At least he gives you some internet time</div>

 #39598  by Don
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:53 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Not really, the tie in to Chrono Trigger is pretty much nonexistent (Another, CT's dimension, is pretty much just completely devastated). Even as a stand-alone story it's hurt by the fact that there is no main character in the game whatsoever (Serge doesn't do anything)</div>
 #39599  by Eric
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:11 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Think back to when you read the letter from Lucca. (After you save Kid from the fire in the past) There's a reference to Lucca asking and hoping that Magus is looking after Kid.

Keep in mind you never see his face, and his main attribute was shadow magic.</div>

 #39602  by Kupek
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:41 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>If I recall, he's lifted from the Radical Dreamers game, where he is not.</div>

 #39603  by Eric
 Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:59 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Errr but in Radical Dreamers he was Magus.....But that's irrelivent because it's not like RD and CC stick to the same story line.</div>

 #39605  by Don
 Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:12 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Magil in RD was Magus. But CC is not RD.</div>

 #39630  by SineSwiper
 Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:12 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Another is not CT's dimension! Jesus, you have a fucking skewed view of the game's storyline.</div>