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Illusion of Gaia

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:38 pm
by Julius Seeker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLqNFeorcRc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pahmBCwTxw

These battles impressed me; not even a single herb used. Thiese were, at the time, the most difficult battled I had yet faced in any game... The one to beath them being Bloody Mary in Terranigma a few years later.

I still have yet to get all 50 gems, but I already know what happens.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:46 pm
by Don
Just use magic on Bloody Mary. They do way more damage than you can attack for.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:58 pm
by Julius Seeker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CibUuIev ... h_response

This guy defeats her in 5 minutes at level 19 without magic. This guy got fairly lucky to only get hit twice though (I usually get hit a lot). I don't know if this method would be possible using the emulated version unless you have a third party controller.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:49 pm
by Don
Bloody Mary's defense is so high there's no particular disadvantage to fight her at a low level from an offensive point of view because you'll be hitting her in the single digits anyway unless you did some massive leveling up.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:16 pm
by Eric
Ahhh that game's a classic :)
The Seeker wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CibUuIev ... h_response

This guy defeats her in 5 minutes at level 19 without magic. This guy got fairly lucky to only get hit twice though (I usually get hit a lot). I don't know if this method would be possible using the emulated version unless you have a third party controller.
I don't get why people say this about emulated games. I can play games like Marvel vs Capcom on an emulator quite masterfully, heh.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:59 pm
by Julius Seeker
I have to play it on emulator now because my SNES is junk and the controllers don't work. It is mainly the control methods. Plus for some reason SNES emulators always seem to screw up transparency.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:44 pm
by Don
In fact I'm pretty sure most of these videos that involve some godlike playing are done with emulator since you can keep on retry/save until you do it right. The most notable example would obviously be that 9 minutes SMB3 one.

PostPosted:Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:53 pm
by Don
Looking at that video, I'm almost certain it's one of those 'emulator assisted' deal. The guy dodges the orbs too perfectly and more importantly he always knows where Bloody Mary teleported to even when she teleports off the screen.

PostPosted:Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:49 am
by Zeus
Don Wang wrote:In fact I'm pretty sure most of these videos that involve some godlike playing are done with emulator since you can keep on retry/save until you do it right. The most notable example would obviously be that 9 minutes SMB3 one.
The 19 minute SMB3 one was a hack, the guy admitted it

PostPosted:Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:51 am
by Julius Seeker
Yeah, that is what I am thinking too, he seems to have much too much luck for it to be real. Either that or has had too much practice on that particular boss.

PostPosted:Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:50 pm
by Don
The SMB3 one was emulator-assisted, i.e. the guy played it over and over again in slow-motion speed and save whenever he pull off something incredible and then piece it all together. There is nothing he did that requires god mode or whatever, but chaining the events together is simply downright impossible without the ability to load/save. It'd be like I play Gradius 3 or whatever insane shooter, get through the game on one life because I can load/save anytime, and then edit out the load/save part so it looks like one continous gameplay.

For the Terranigma one I don't see how he could deal with the teleport part without using an emulator, i.e. he actually already knows where she'd teleport to because he can load. There is absolutely no indication where Bloody Mary is if she teleports off the screen, which is part of the difficulty of the battle, but he was always able to run the right direction toward where she teleported to every single time. That goes beyond just being good or even godly at a game.