The Shrine

Just wondering if it was safe to buy an X-Box 360 yet, with all the horror stories I've heard about systems breaking horribly and such. I've been a bit gun shy.

They do eventually get fixed, but if you wanna be sure, get an Elite or a Halo-themed one, that way you know it's newer with the newer technology with less probability of breaking down

Eric wrote:Just wondering if it was safe to buy an X-Box 360 yet, with all the horror stories I've heard about systems breaking horribly and such. I've been a bit gun shy.

Anything with a newer manufacture date of...I think...July 07, should be fine. I'd still recommend getting an extended warranty to alleviate all your fears.

All you'll need is a Premium that has HDMI... I don't think they came out before the problem was announced.

Almost makes me wanna get a new 360...

Had an Elite for over a month without any problems.

From Penny Arcade today:

"360 failures always spike when a game worth playing comes out, which (to me) seems to imply that most of the three-sixties installed in homes currently are used as decoration. You'll recall that it happened with Forza 2 and the sequel to Guitar Hero, as well. It's incredible that we are in a situation where every time a worthwhile game sees release, it sweeps through the entire userbase with a scythe. Literally incredible, as in, I can't fucking believe it. It's like flipping a coin, and every time it comes up heads four hundred dollars catches on fire."

I'm not sure if the newer 360s are that much more failure-resistant than the old ones - they certainly might be - but the failures definitely haven't stopped in general. Just a heads-up.

That's because most people who DO have Xbox's don't play them daily... maybe weekly but doubtfully that.

Before Bioshock came out I had barely used my 360 as anything other than a DVD player for a month or so. So yeah, when good games come out THEN people notice that their system fried. Doesn't surprise me, you'll find that with any console. How many Wii's are decoration right now (or have been recently) until decent games come out? Something you pulled out to show friends and then back in the corner it went. Obviously no one here's like that, but we're not the majority of console owners.

Haven't heard complaints from any replacements since they "fixed" the problem-- which literally consists of bigger heatsink on the GPU and having it seated more firmly to the chip. Gotta suck to know $15 worth of parts is destroying your $400 system... for both users and Microsoft.

Whatever, man. I have plenty of games to play on the 360 already. Hell, even the XBox Arcade has some really good stuff. Mutant Storm Reloaded is awesome, and sometimes I play Space Giraffe (big fan of Llamatron) or Luminus (big fan of Rez).

Sine, this discussion is not about you. It's about whether or not the 360 is safe for Eric to buy.

Perhaps this can shine some light on why I get frustrated with you - I surely don't care about how many 360 games you have. Eric might, who knows? I'm more concerned about whether or not his money is going to end up as a fantastic set of redrings. Personally, I don't know if I can recommend buying a 360 yet - I can easily see a situation where the replacements end up just as fried in a year as all the originals did. Microsoft still, in my opinion, completely falls down on their QA probably more than half the time.

But Eric can make his own determination, and maybe the abundance of games you've mentioned would be more of a determination than the quality issues so frequently mentioned. I really don't know, and have no desire to get called "emo" again, so, outski for the Nevarooni for now.

There is enough of a collection of games and XBLA stuff for anyone to have 10-15 games by now.

Zeus wrote:There is enough of a collection of games and XBLA stuff for anyone to have 10-15 games by now.

Not everyone may be comfortable purchasing MS points and buying digital copies of games. I know people at work that STILL refuse to purchase anything online. XBL is like a diamond in the rough for Xbox, and I will admit even I don't give it much of a glance.

XBL is awesome, and so are a LOT of the 360 games. I can definitely recommend the 360 as a sweet, sweet fucking platform and was very very happy while mine was working!

That being said, if I end up keeping the one I get back and it breaks again, I doubt I'm buying another Microsoft gaming platform in the near future. It killed me to see that redring not going away when I really wanted to play Fight Night.

Tessian wrote:

Zeus wrote:There is enough of a collection of games and XBLA stuff for anyone to have 10-15 games by now.

Not everyone may be comfortable purchasing MS points and buying digital copies of games. I know people at work that STILL refuse to purchase anything online. XBL is like a diamond in the rough for Xbox, and I will admit even I don't give it much of a glance.

XBL is doing quite well for them, particularly in the d'loading department. There's a reason you're seeing so many arcade games coming out and new Guitar Hero stuff comin' all the time.

I just want the PSN to come in and do extremely well so Microshaft will finally have Gold for free. Mine just ran out yesterday and it's against my personal religion to pay for a game and then have to pay again to play it online. Fucking stupid IMO