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Publishers sure are getting cranky with reviewers.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:49 pm
by Eric
http://kotaku.com/342519/3-companies-ba ... or-reviews
This is a reprint of my editorial that appears in the February issue of EGM. A lot of people are talking about it thanks to Video Game Media Watch, Kotaku, Joystiq, etc. -- so I thought I'd put the original text here for people to read.

It used to be game companies would pull advertising if they wanted to punish a magazine for unfavorable coverage. In more recent times, they're pulling the coverage as well. It's an interesting setup: Don't let us see the games, and we can't write anything bad about them. But don't let us see the games, and we can't write anything good about them, either.

Gamemakers have been taking issue with our reviews for as long as EGM's been around (almost 19 years now). It goes with the territory: Be honest and tough with your critiques, and you're going to piss just about everybody off at some point. But when I took over as editor-in-chief in 2001, I also wanted us to get more real with our previews. I was tired of the press-release rehashes our industry had become accustomed to, so I asked for more sincerity and opinions from our writers and editors. Naturally, you have to be fair -- the products aren't finished yet, after all -- but judging from reader feedback, our opinionated previews have been a hit.

Except with some game publishers, of course. Less-than-totally-positive previews don't sit well with those who are used to those press-release rehashes. Combine that with our candid reviews, and you can imagine the consequences that we have to face constantly.

For the time being, you'll get little, late, or no coverage of the following products: anything Mortal Kombat (they didn't like our reviews), anything from Sony's sports department (ditto), and now, anything from Ubisoft (it seems our coverage of Assassin's Creed was the last straw). So in case you're wondering why you're seeing so little of these games in our magazines and on our websites, now you know.

What do we do now? Nothing. We won't treat these products or companies any differently, and we'll just cover them to the best of our own abilities, with or without their support. Because, after all, we're writing for you, the reader -- not them.
From Dan "Shoe" Hsu's Blog @ 1up.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:55 pm
by Blotus
Silly Ubisoft. Not everybody can like Assassin's Creed.

Seeker, stay out of this thread.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:04 pm
by Zeus
Yeah, I read that in the print issue of EGM.

Screw those companies, they don't deserve the press for their games

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:12 pm
by Kupek
1up Must be getting hammered, I can't get into Hsu's actual blog.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:36 pm
by Don
I think the Star Wars characters in SC4 movie is eating up all the bandwidth.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:48 pm
by Julius Seeker
I think some will pull stuff from lesser magazines and websites, but not any of the main sites/magazines like IGN or Famitsu. Having no ads or coverage in those sources would be near marketing suicide.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:34 pm
by SineSwiper
That's fine. The mag/site can still buy the game from their local store and review the game afterwards. If they don't want to give them any previews, then they obviously don't want any advertisement of their game.

PostPosted:Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:08 pm
by Andrew, Killer Bee
Seems like these publishers are cutting off their noses to spite their faces, really. It nets them bad publicity for pulling coverage, no publicity for games that could well be good, and achieves nothing because review sites can just buy their games to review them however they like, anyway.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:04 pm
by Blotus
More on this:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/featu ... 327/?biz=1

On a related note, Alex Navarro is leaving Gamespot. No details at the moment.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:08 pm
by Eric
Frank Provo(After 8 years) also left Gamespot saying "I believe CNet management let Jeff go for all the wrong reasons. I believe CNet intends to soften the site's tone and push for higher scores to make advertisers happy." He further went on to say that as a result, CNet has created the most "soul-crushing work environment"

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:40 pm
by Julius Seeker
Well, they were a fairly good site while they lasted. I wonder what successor site will pop up to replace Gamespot?

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:50 pm
by Eric
Dutch wrote:Well, they were a fairly good site while they lasted. I wonder what successor site will pop up to replace Gamespot?
I doubt the impact will be large enough on any level to kill the website. Sure there are some ripples, but I don't see the website closing its doors because people leave in waves as a result of this.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:13 pm
by Julius Seeker
Hahaha, woops, I think I should have thought before I posted =P

What I am wondering if the editors will stick together and form a new site, though I am sure IGN or GameTrailers would be willing to hire on a few well known faces.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:41 pm
by Julius Seeker
Dutch wrote:I think some will pull stuff from lesser magazines and websites, but not any of the main sites/magazines like IGN or Famitsu. Having no ads or coverage in those sources would be near marketing suicide.
Actually, did Eidos pull their full support from Gamespot, or just the Kane and Lynch stuff? I haven't kept up with that situation. If they did then my above statement would be quite wrong; you know, assuming Eidos wasn't completely stupid and CNet just equally as stupid.

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:30 pm
by RentCavalier
This whole Gertsmann thing just sickens me--it's an example of journalistic integrity being shat upon needlessly by uncaring and ignorant corporate entities.

Have some fucking BACKBONE, Gamespot.

Though, I read an interesting article in the Escapist that applies here.

You know the guy who is in charge of CNET and Gamespot? Well, he used to be editor of Maxim Magazine.

Now, I bet you guys have noticed that Maxim is often quoted on posters for crappy movies as labeling them "must see" titles. Well, the reviewer in question who does that was rececntly fired for being a corporate schtill--fired by the NEW editor of Maxim, who replaced the previous one, whose stand was to allow large movie companies leeway and leniency in his magazine in exchange for advertising.

The article is linked here--read it, it's pretty interesting:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/article ... lm-Criticl

PostPosted:Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:30 pm
by Eric
Dutch wrote:
Dutch wrote:I think some will pull stuff from lesser magazines and websites, but not any of the main sites/magazines like IGN or Famitsu. Having no ads or coverage in those sources would be near marketing suicide.
Actually, did Eidos pull their full support from Gamespot, or just the Kane and Lynch stuff? I haven't kept up with that situation. If they did then my above statement would be quite wrong; you know, assuming Eidos wasn't completely stupid and CNet just equally as stupid.
Jeff got fired, I don't think they pulled the adds after that? I'm not sure.

PostPosted:Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:44 am
by Zeus
Journalistic integrity is an oxymoron now