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Ninja Gaiden 2 Master Thread

PostPosted:Tue May 27, 2008 8:54 pm
by Andrew, Killer Bee
SineSwiper wrote:Meh. I'll play it later, when they port it over to 360. You guys should be excited about Ninja Gaiden 2.
Should we be excited for NG2? The early 90s Japanese monster movie aesthetics remain, and it doesn't look as good now as NG did when it was first released on the original Xbox. And apparently the camera is worse than ever, and it trots out archaic game mechanics (horrible platforming sections, repeated boss fights, invisible barriers, etc.).

I was hoping it'd be the generational leap for action games than DMC4 wasn't, but the reviews so far don't fill me with hope:
Eurogamer wrote:No other action game comes close to Ninja Gaiden 2 for looks, for animation or for ferocity... Even the solid and enjoyable Devil May Cry 4 doesn't have the mesmerising quality that watching someone play NG2 exerts. The problem, sadly, arises when you actually pick up the controller yourself.
1UP wrote:If only any other area of the game received such loving attention. It may be a game about combat, but it has more than its fair share of simple platforming and exploring. Both of those elements are done horribly, as hero Ryu Hayabusa is regularly at odds with his surroundings... The awful camera -- one of the worst I've dealt with in a 3D environment -- compounds those problems and unnecessarily complicates the combat.
IGN wrote:And yet, the game doesn't feel as special as Ninja Gaiden did... The game has been focused from its predecessor into a more pure action affair, for better or for worse, but the formula remains the same -- frustrating camera and all.
I am still excited for the game, but I'm worried for it also. I'm starting to think the the first 3D Ninja Gaiden game may have just been a fluke.

PostPosted:Tue May 27, 2008 9:46 pm
by bovine
I'm not particularly excited. My ass is still sore from the first one (well, the xbox one anyways). Also, team ninja is the terrible. Seriously? DOA? What is even the point of that game?

PostPosted:Tue May 27, 2008 11:06 pm
by SineSwiper
Granted, I hate Dead or Alive. It was a dumb gimmick, and still is. However, their experience in making a 3D fighter series has paid off in some really advanced combat mechanics with Ninja Gaiden. I don't think that game was a fluke.

And really, I'd need to play the game myself to really figure out what these guys are bitching about. Is it fixed or freeform? How could they make it worse, when the camera was mostly fine in the first game. (Camera was bad in NG1, IGN says? I don't even remember the camera being a problem, but it was a couple of years ago when I played.)

PostPosted:Wed May 28, 2008 1:12 am
by Blotus
I'll be renting it for certain. Loved NG on the Xbox. It was incredibly fun despite being incredibly difficult.

PostPosted:Wed May 28, 2008 1:19 pm
by Zeus
Camera issues seem to be even moreso this time

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3167969

PostPosted:Wed May 28, 2008 7:47 pm
by SineSwiper
Well, it can't possibly suck more than DMC2.

PostPosted:Sat May 31, 2008 12:33 pm
by bovine

PostPosted:Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:50 am
by SineSwiper
Still a good review, and the camera looks no worse than the previous game. At least it's a game where if you're blind, you can still rely on Ryu turning to face the enemy when he's attacking. I can't stand games were you end up slashing at thin air, just because you're not turned exactly right.

PostPosted:Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:09 am
by Andrew, Killer Bee
Holy shit! <a href="http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168056">Itagaki leaves Tecmo, sues Tecmo president</a>!

PostPosted:Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:05 am
by RentCavalier
...woah...

PostPosted:Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:09 pm
by Zeus
Heh, if what he said is right, I hope he Ishes Tecmo hard

PostPosted:Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:13 pm
by Kupek
So... was anyone else's first thought "Man, he must think he's a rockstar"?

PostPosted:Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:27 pm
by Eric
Tomonobu Itagaki is one of the most if not most outspoken Japanese game developers. That guy runs off at the mouth regularly about his work, other people's work, and holds nothing back.

Nice change of pace from your quiet and humble Japanese devs. :p

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:59 am
by Andrew, Killer Bee
Kupek wrote:So... was anyone else's first thought "Man, he must think he's a rockstar"?
I dunno, it sounds pretty reasonable to me. I was in favour of Fea quitting her job when she was unfairly denied part of her bonus last year.

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:15 am
by Zeus
Kupek wrote:So... was anyone else's first thought "Man, he must think he's a rockstar"?
Nah, we already know he thinks he is :-)

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:23 am
by Kupek
No no no, not what he did, but how he's dressed.

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That's why it was my first thought, because I saw the picture before reading the story.

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:37 pm
by Zeus
His style has finally caught up with his attitude? :-)

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:37 pm
by Eric
Zeus wrote:His style has finally caught up with his attitude? :-)
Itagaki has always dressed like that! It's why he owns. :P

http://images.google.com/images?q=Tomon ... a=N&tab=wi

PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:17 pm
by SineSwiper
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PostPosted:Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:14 pm
by Kupek
I liked this one:
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PostPosted:Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:16 am
by SineSwiper
*bump*

This game kicks my ass. Bosses are seriously hard, and death is just a regular part of the game. Yeah, the camera is annoying sometimes, but at least the enemy tracking makes up for it.

I'm only on level 3 so far. I'm playing it on Warrior, but I'm not sure if that's the hard version or normal. It seemed like Accolade would be too easy for somebody who's already played the first game.

PostPosted:Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:41 am
by RentCavalier
Accolade is pretty easy for a veteran of NG1, but this game is loads of awesome and win.

PostPosted:Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:10 am
by Zeus
Kupek wrote:I liked this one:
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I can't believe I missed this one before. It's awesome