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They need to stop giving games perfect scores.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:10 pm
by Anarky
I'm sick of seeing so many games getting 100's on metacritic and other rating sites. Fable II got a 100 on many sites, but by no means is it a perfect game, its a good game, but its definitely not a 100, end of the game and length alone should knock it down. Another good example was Bioshock. I love Bioshock, but the pipe game every time to hack? come on that alone was a feature that should have cost it a few points. A fix to that could have been different minigames, but that an argument for another topic.

I'm just sick of all these reviewers giving 100, because it makes the score seem so pointless.

Thoughts?

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:37 pm
by Flip
Yes.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:56 pm
by Kupek
How many times have we had this discussion? A 10/10, 100/100 or A+ score does not mean the game is perfect. It doesn't even mean the game has no faults. What is means is that it's the best of what is currently available.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:57 pm
by Julius Seeker
Just don't pay attention to reviewers that give out top scores (100%, 10/10, A+, etc...) to games that don't deserve it. Those scores generally don't mean perfect, but rather that the game is the favourite of the reviewer at the time (or some money thing).

I generally ignore review scores and follow developers and genres that I like. IE. Xenosaga may not have scored as highly as other games, but I like it as much as many of the best of them; monolith soft + rpg is what I am looking for.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:01 pm
by Lox
It doesn't bother me. What does a score mean anyway? It's just a representation of what a particular reviewer thought of a particular game. People are so different and expectations are so varied that I can't really take any reviewer's score as a way to decide whether a game is good or not even if I tend to agree with that reviewer.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:03 pm
by Kupek
Read this thread five times: viewtopic.php?t=12315&highlight=perfect+score

If you think you actually have something new to contribute after reading that thread five (5) times, then bring this up again.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:15 pm
by Don
If a game has to be perfect to get a score of 10 or whatever, we'd be in a very depressing world.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:26 pm
by Julius Seeker
IGN Nintendo is probably the hardest site to get a perfect 10 out of, they have only given out one in the history of the site (even before they were a part of IGN).

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:28 pm
by Zeus
Where's that dead horse pic when you need it....

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:28 pm
by Anarky
I forgot about how bad this previous post got...

I just think using the 100/100 system is indeed more like yes this is PERFECT. I think the 5 star and 10/10 are a bit more forgivable. I still take the 100/100 as a test in college where you knew the answers weather it be Multiple Choice or Essay even :-p

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:31 pm
by Kupek
The entire concept of a "perfect" game is intellectually bankrupt. It has no meaning. If your complaint is that a 100 point scale for a game is ridiculous, then I agree. But that's a different issue.

Five times. Did you read through it five times?

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:27 pm
by Andrew, Killer Bee
I give this thread my lowest score ever: seven thumbs up.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:40 pm
by Anarky
Kupek wrote:The entire concept of a "perfect" game is intellectually bankrupt. It has no meaning. If your complaint is that a 100 point scale for a game is ridiculous, then I agree. But that's a different issue.

Five times. Did you read through it five times?
Once seemed like enough

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:28 pm
by Blotus
Scores are gay.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:41 pm
by Tessian
Anarky wrote:I forgot about how bad this previous post got...

I just think using the 100/100 system is indeed more like yes this is PERFECT. I think the 5 star and 10/10 are a bit more forgivable. I still take the 100/100 as a test in college where you knew the answers weather it be Multiple Choice or Essay even :-p
If you want to use the school test analogy you have to compare them properly. When you get a 100% on a test did that really mean you were perfect? NO. It meant that based on the criteria that the teacher scored you on you received all possible points, it does NOT mean that your understanding of the subject matter was perfect because that's just about as achievable as creating the perfect game. The reviewers are doing this the same way-- based on the way in which they score a game, this one in particular scored all possible points in their minds. It's subjective, must like your English essays were, and a perfect score NEVER means you performed perfectly. It simply means you were awarded the full possible points.

The END

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:37 pm
by Anarky
Hey Tessian...
Invite me to your Fable II game, I'm going to 'rape your churches and burn your women' (if anyone knows where that quotes from then kudos)

Fine, you're right, I'm a twat for bringing up this argument again. Fuck it. Delete or lock the thread

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:37 pm
by Julius Seeker
Tessian nailed it like Steve Jobs did with the iPhone =P

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:08 pm
by Tessian
Woah wait a second man... this is the Internet, you're not supposed to admit mistakes! ;)

Next time we're both on remind me and you can join in to raise hell-- I went all evil anyway.

PostPosted:Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:45 pm
by KluYa
Anarky wrote:Hey Tessian...
Invite me to your Fable II game, I'm going to 'rape your churches and burn your women' (if anyone knows where that quotes from then kudos)
WKUK. No fad saying gets past me. =p

PostPosted:Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:34 am
by Anarky
KluYa wrote:
Anarky wrote:Hey Tessian...
Invite me to your Fable II game, I'm going to 'rape your churches and burn your women' (if anyone knows where that quotes from then kudos)
WKUK. No fad saying gets past me. =p
Right on :D

TURN AROUND AND SAY IT AGAIN! NOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UP!

PostPosted:Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:33 am
by Kupek
Tessian wrote:Woah wait a second man... this is the Internet, you're not supposed to admit mistakes! ;)
And I note with surprise that your argument is now the same as mine.

PostPosted:Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:52 am
by SineSwiper
Bioshock. Yes, 10/10. No, it's not perfect, but goddamn, is it ever close! Mass Effect usually got 9s. That's fine. There were a lot of bugs, the inventory was a real pain in the ass, but the dialogue and story made up for it.

Fable 2 doesn't deserve 10/10. It has some pretty major bugs. If Force Unleashed got 10/10, I'd be pissed, too.

People will forgot these two games. Games like Bioshock are absolute classics. They are in league with Half-Life 1/2, Gears of War, Portal, SMB3, Legend of Zelda 3, etc. Totally absolute and unforgettable classics.

Giving Fable 2 a 10/10 is like giving Super Mario Sunshine a 10/10. It's just a nod to the developer, and not to the game.