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Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.

 #129902  by Lox
 Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:11 am
I care enough to try it out, but not enough to jump up and down in excitement. :)

 #129903  by Zeus
 Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:40 am
Oh fuck yeah I do. I'd get it right away if I had a PS3.

And it had better be great. I want to point and laugh at Microshaft when they're forced to drop the Live Gold fee

 #129985  by bovine
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:43 pm
this launch sort of reminds me of the sega saturn. They just sort of announced "hey, it's out now! go and buy it!" before anyone expected it. Although everyone expected this before 2009 (so says the word of Sony), it just seems so rushed and ham handed of a launch for something that is supposed to be so important to their playstation brand. It almost seems like they don't care about this anymore. I'll certainly download it and give it a spin today, so expect some impressions to follow later in the day!

 #129990  by Lox
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:25 pm
I still don't see it up. I'm hoping it's up soon.

 #129996  by bovine
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:17 pm
it's up now.

*update*

I've downloaded it and installed it, set aside the amount of HDD space it requires, but it won't actually let me PLAY (or whatever it is you do in this thing) it. Keeps giving me either network errors or that my connection to the server was lost. Bovine does not enjoy getting a toy, but not being able to play with it.

 #129997  by Lox
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:05 pm
Yeah. It looks like the servers are being overloaded. Not surprising considering the lack of preparedness Sony seems to be putting into this.

 #130003  by bovine
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:34 pm
after much trying, I was finally able to get in. I'm just toiling about in my "apartment" and trying to download another area. The customization options are sparse. Looks like they probably want me to buy things with real people money. Bovine does not want to spend real people money here.

 #130004  by Zeus
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:33 pm
bovine wrote:after much trying, I was finally able to get in. I'm just toiling about in my "apartment" and trying to download another area. The customization options are sparse. Looks like they probably want me to buy things with real people money. Bovine does not want to spend real people money here.
But you'll be OK with spending real people money to play MGS4 Online?

 #130005  by bovine
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:55 pm
Zeus wrote:
bovine wrote:after much trying, I was finally able to get in. I'm just toiling about in my "apartment" and trying to download another area. The customization options are sparse. Looks like they probably want me to buy things with real people money. Bovine does not want to spend real people money here.
But you'll be OK with spending real people money to play MGS4 Online?
huh? I don't know what you are referring to.

Bovine's final decision on home - probably the lamest thing that I have ever experienced on a console with such hype behind it. It is literally empty of any content that anyone would want. I suggest you try it just to see how ridiculous it actually is.

 #130006  by Tessian
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:11 pm
Zeus wrote: And it had better be great. I want to point and laugh at Microshaft when they're forced to drop the Live Gold fee
bovine wrote: Bovine's final decision on home - probably the lamest thing that I have ever experienced on a console with such hype behind it. It is literally empty of any content that anyone would want. I suggest you try it just to see how ridiculous it actually is.
/points and laughs at Zeu$
Ha ha!


sorry... couldn't resist

 #130011  by Zeus
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:37 pm
bovine wrote:
Zeus wrote:
bovine wrote:after much trying, I was finally able to get in. I'm just toiling about in my "apartment" and trying to download another area. The customization options are sparse. Looks like they probably want me to buy things with real people money. Bovine does not want to spend real people money here.
But you'll be OK with spending real people money to play MGS4 Online?
huh? I don't know what you are referring to.

Bovine's final decision on home - probably the lamest thing that I have ever experienced on a console with such hype behind it. It is literally empty of any content that anyone would want. I suggest you try it just to see how ridiculous it actually is.
What I'm saying is that you don't want to spend money on superficial microtransactions that don't do anything other than affect the aesthetics of your online "world". I can understand that, it's stupid. Yet you seem to have no issues paying a subscription fee to play half of the game you bought on a rival system.

I just wanted to point out to you that it's a bit silly. I personally would rather have a sparse, silly "virtual world" that was barely functional and be able to play my games online for free than have to pay to play half the game I just paid full price for.
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 #130012  by Zeus
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:38 pm
Tessian wrote:
Zeus wrote: And it had better be great. I want to point and laugh at Microshaft when they're forced to drop the Live Gold fee
bovine wrote: Bovine's final decision on home - probably the lamest thing that I have ever experienced on a console with such hype behind it. It is literally empty of any content that anyone would want. I suggest you try it just to see how ridiculous it actually is.
/points and laughs at Zeu$
Ha ha!


sorry... couldn't resist
Give it time. It's just starting.

Remember, I despise Sony, I just want this to work.

 #130013  by bovine
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:54 pm
Zeus wrote:
bovine wrote:
Zeus wrote: But you'll be OK with spending real people money to play MGS4 Online?
huh? I don't know what you are referring to.

Bovine's final decision on home - probably the lamest thing that I have ever experienced on a console with such hype behind it. It is literally empty of any content that anyone would want. I suggest you try it just to see how ridiculous it actually is.
What I'm saying is that you don't want to spend money on superficial microtransactions that don't do anything other than affect the aesthetics of your online "world". I can understand that, it's stupid. Yet you seem to have no issues paying a subscription fee to play half of the game you bought on a rival system.

I just wanted to point out to you that it's a bit silly. I personally would rather have a sparse, silly "virtual world" that was barely functional and be able to play my games online for free than have to pay to play half the game I just paid full price for.
If $50 a year is the cost to play with my friends (because there are very few people with a ps3 that I know), have a robust online system, use a superior (in my opinion) controller, and play great exclusives online, then I'll certainly pay it. MGS4 and Resistance 1 and 2 have pretty awful multiplayer. Some people may give critical acclaim to R2's coop and vs modes, but I really disliked them, especially coupled with the extra-awkward ps3 controller. I have trouble finding games I want to play on the only game on the ps3 taht I want to play online: wipeout hd. I'd much rather pay to play gears, gears 2, halo3, and castle crashers with you guys and my friends (are you crazy obscure internet people my friends? ah sure, why not?). I'd like it if it was free, and I also think it SHOULD be free, but it is not. I'm paying for it because I see a value in it. Should that already be included in the price I pay for a game? Yer damn right it should, but it is not. I agree with you, I just don't feel as strongly about it.

*EDIT*

Also, this crap heap has been in the pipe for 2 years. This is all they could do in 2 years? Seriously?!? You think it's going to get better? I hope it gets better, but 2 years!!!

 #130015  by Tessian
 Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:17 pm
bovine wrote:(are you crazy obscure internet people my friends? ah sure, why not?)
Hey! Who are you calling obscure??
zeus wrote: Give it time
bovine wrote: Also, this crap heap has been in the pipe for 2 years. This is all they could do in 2 years? Seriously?!?

 #130019  by Lox
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:07 am
I can pretty much echo bovine's complaints and say no more. The customization options are pitiful. If they provide more for free, then I'll change my opinion, but for now it's pretty sad. So far, the Mii's have the most useful customization options, imo. That's just scary. haha

 #130023  by Kupek
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:43 am
Zeus wrote:Yet you seem to have no issues paying a subscription fee to play half of the game you bought on a rival system.
It's $4.17 a month. It's not even the cost of two pints at a bar.

 #130024  by Zeus
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:50 am
Kupek wrote:
Zeus wrote:Yet you seem to have no issues paying a subscription fee to play half of the game you bought on a rival system.
It's $4.17 a month. It's not even the cost of two pints at a bar.
Again, the amount is not the point. But we won't go there again.

 #130029  by Kupek
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:25 am
I think you already did.

 #130032  by Eric
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:59 am
Sony has failed and disappointed this generation repeatedly.

 #130040  by Zeus
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:59 pm
Kupek wrote:I think you already did.
I stopped myself from expanding on it in the reply above so not really. I was just pointing out it wasn't based on cost.

With Bovine's post I was trying to show him how his aversion to the microtransactions relates to my aversion to paying to play online. It's a completely different conversation than the arguments we had before.

What I was really saying is that we all have things we just won't pay for because it's silly or we don't believe in it even though millions of others may. The very thought of a microtransaction-based MMO here is scoffed at but in Asia it's fucking huge. But that ain't the way we think about it here in NA. We're OK with a subscription whereas that don't fly quite as well over there.

Basically, I think more like an Asian than a North American :-)
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 #130041  by Zeus
 Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:02 pm
Eric wrote:Sony has failed and disappointed this generation repeatedly.
For sure. They're fucking up huge and I think they're sure they can eventually pull out of it 'cause of the "Playstation brand". They're being quite arrogant IMO. They're saying "but we're tracking along the PS2 sales so we're doing good". Well, not when your competition is Ishing the shit out of you and you were the undisputed market leader very recently you're not. That's grounds for dismissal in most companies (and sports :-).

 #130062  by Tessian
 Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:54 pm
Tycho gave it some damning critique yesterday at PA.
Tycho wrote: There are things about Home that are simply beyond my understanding. Chief among these bizarre maneuvers is the idea that, when manufacturing their flimsy dystopia, they actually ported the pernicious notion of scarcity from our world into their digital one. This is like having the ability to shape being from non-being at the subatomic level, and the first thing you decide to make is AIDS.