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Anyone else really excited about Xenosaga? I adored the first one mainly for it's story and can't wait to see what this new one is like, especially considering the important part of the team is still intact. Might make me buy a PS2, along with GT3, SH2, a

PostPosted:Thu Jul 26, 2001 10:54 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Anyone else really excited about Xenosaga? I adored the first one mainly for it's story and can't wait to see what this new one is like, especially considering the important part of the team is still intact. Might make me buy a PS2, along with GT3, SH2, and MGS2</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:26 am
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I find it odd the developers called the game a dud.</div>

Scion or whatever the starting female looks kind of goofy

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:53 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Kos-Mos looks kind of generic too...</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:29 am
by Manshoon
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I definetly am. Xenogears kicked all kinds of ass, and it can only get better with Xenosaga.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:30 am
by Manshoon
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I know. It had its flaws of course, but a dud is the last thing I'd call it.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:53 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Indeed. Especially since most of the Xenogears' key team members are working on it.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 2:14 am
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Bah, you and your videogame female fetish. :P</div>

I'm not attracted to games with goofy looking characters

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 5:55 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Appearance isn't everything, but all other things being equal, I rather having my characters look attractive.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:41 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I should be anticipating it more. I loved Xengoears - I think out of all RPGs I've played, it had the most emotional impact - but for some reason, the character shots I've seen don't do it for me. That'll probably change though.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:42 am
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Woah woah woah, the developers of Xenogears called Xenogears a dud?</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:40 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Bah! Admit it: you like SD characters.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:44 am
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Too many people bitching about the second disc.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:11 am
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>All with good reason.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:37 am
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Yes. Other than MGS2, it's the only game I give a damn about.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:38 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Ico!!! Wipeout 4!!! World Rally Championship!!! You need those more than oxygen!</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:42 am
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Fuck those. Don't play console games unless they're already won my respect anymore.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:54 am
by G-man Joe
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Then how'd you get started on playing video games then? =8^)</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:57 am
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Note the "ANYMORE".</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:59 am
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>This from the person who has a picture of Yuna in his sig...Tifa-itis (with a haircut) strikes again.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:02 pm
by Gentz
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>What is ICO, btw?</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:23 pm
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>From what I've seen and read... it's pretty hard to explain. Check out the preview at GIA. It's also on the PS2 Jampack demo.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:24 pm
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Characters look pretty retarded. But if the game's similar to Gears, I'll probably like it (and then sell it because it would have zero replay).</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 3:55 pm
by WooJin
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, it's sales weren't exactly blockbuster ^^</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 4:45 pm
by Kupek
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It's just hard to imagine a game I, and many others, liked so much to be called a dud by its developers, of all people.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 6:00 pm
by Eric
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://ps2.ign.com/previews/16268.html" ... 68.html</a>

"t's been argued by many that Xenogears was a noble failure -- even producer Tetsuya Takahashi has admitted that the game wasn't quite what it could have been."</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 8:56 pm
by Crono
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well, having sexy female character(s) is a selling point for you in buying a game, hehe (not the ONLY one, mind ya, but it is important).</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:14 pm
by Crono
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it.</div>

PostPosted:Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:19 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Hey, if this 'Kos-Mos' uses a heavy weapons class that allows for dual tri-miniguns, I've already found my favorite character.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:55 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>No way. The main problem with Xeno was the gameplay, which was shallow and got irritating about 30 hours in. It's was the story that kept it all goin'. The lack of gameplay on the second disc was a godsend</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:56 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>I agree. Following up the best and most complex RPG story in history with less than spectacular - but still pretty good - gameplay does lead to a bit of disappointment</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:58 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Thus making it one of the most sought after PSX games. It's going for like $50 or so on Ebay still</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:11 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>The characters were designed by the same person who did Xenogears. I guess they just don't translate well into 3D.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:38 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Yeah, the Tower of Babel and Solaris were especially hellish. *shudder*</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:41 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Personally, I've taken a shine to Jr. This kid is just begging for parental backlash.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:40 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Jr does look cool</div>

I don't know of many games that advertise ugly characters...

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:49 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Besides, I don't buy games just because there are cute looking characters on the cover/back. Thousand Arms was pretty close, but I was curious to its dating sim aspect too.

I do that for manga, but not games. It's too expensive. I got Tenchi Muyo In Love 2 manga even though I knew it's going to suck (Sasami doing Dance Dance Revolution is... dumb...) because there's a picture of Sasami on the cover that I haven't seen before. Or how about I picked up a Fire Emblem 4 manga because Ishtar was on the back, or GTO #17 in Japanse because Miyabi Aizawa's on the cover.</div>

Looks like a generic mecha girl in the making

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:51 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The 'mecha girl with super duper power trying to learn what it's like to be human' character just never appealed to me, and it seems like that's going to be her prototype.</div>

I've been on the Aeris camp since day one

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:53 am
by Don
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I've always liked the summoner type girls in the FF series. Eiko is my favorite character from FF9, but that's not saying very much...</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:01 am
by Torgo
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>*cough* FFIX *cough*</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:28 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Heh. I was fearful of that cover.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:29 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Some of the puzzles and jumps were fucking annoying, and I didn't like the fact that the camera only shifted at four corners.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:30 pm
by SineSwiper
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Whatever. I loved the story.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:11 pm
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I don't have good reason? It was boring. Not good enough?</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:12 pm
by Blotus
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>And I liked it. However, the second disc still bored me.</div>

PostPosted:Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:21 pm
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>That's why it isn't quite up there among the truly incredible ones like FF6 or Chrono Trigger. It's just a shade below due to some of its shortcomings, camera being one big one</div>

PostPosted:Sun Jul 29, 2001 5:24 am
by Manshoon
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>For me anyways, the story was so incredible I was able to overlook all of that.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Jul 29, 2001 5:26 am
by Manshoon
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, the sudden transition from being in control to watching Fei and Elly talk in their rocking chairs could've been handled better.</div>

PostPosted:Sun Jul 29, 2001 9:39 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Didn't say it wasn't good enough, just said I didn't agree and gave my reasons</div>

PostPosted:Sun Jul 29, 2001 9:40 am
by Zeus
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>The story was so damned good it made it into an awesome game instead of one of the top 3 of all time, IMO</div>

PostPosted:Sun Jul 29, 2001 2:15 pm
by S.Cody2
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Very possibly, but it all comes down to one thing, this - How much fucking stuff can she shoot up in 10 seconds?</div>