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  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #25587  by Don
 Sun Sep 09, 2001 5:39 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, my friend finally got around beating the game, and here are my thoughts.

Tida (it's spelled Tidus, but pronounced Tida) is, IMO, the coolest hero in a FF game. Voice acting helps to round out his personality very well. 

Yuna, who is supposed to be important to the story, somehow doesn't feel like that. I've found recent FF heroines to not play a very big role in the scope of the story. I mean yeah she's supposed to be the one saving the world or something, but it just doesn't feel that way. It seems like from about FF8 and on the Square heroines that are supposed to be important turned out to be helpless in the grand scheme of things.

Some of her summoning stances looks like something straight out of a Magical Girl Anime (the final dungeon comes to mind). On the flip side, some of her other summoning stances are really cool (Ifrit comes to mind). At least she's not just outright stupid like some of the recent FF heroines, or at least it doesn't seem that way.

I don't know much about the supporting cast, though they don't have that big of a role in the grand scheme of things anyway.

The battle system is pretty good, but it can still get abusive. Summoning is always free since the worse that can happen is that your summon got blown away before it got to attack, in which case it's as if you never summoned anything at all, but since Summons don't cost MP it's not a big deal. Unless you've some freak incidence like the boss blew away your Summon AND somehow got his turn before someone else and attacked again, you don't lose out anything by summoning. The summon's attack power is reasonably balanced with that of your team. In fact I'd say you get more damage out of sticking with a 3 party team as opposed to Summons. It seems like the summons are there to replace the extra life bars you get via healing (only a few people start with white magic, and it doesn't seem to heal a lot).

Tida's Quick Trick ability is even more broken. It's like having 99 speed in Final Fantasy Tactics. My friend got in a mess against the last guy and started using Quick Trick and for a while we thought Tida got infinite turns because he had about 8 turns in a row before anyone else's active time bar even moved.

The music, like I've posted below, isn't really that good. Thankfully, the battle themes, regular and boss, are all quite good. Suteki Da Ne gets way overused throughout the game, and to a lesser extent the Zanarkland theme (the piano piece at the game start screen). Zanarkland is a beautiful theme, and maybe one of the Suteki Da Ne variation is good (A Short Lived Dream is quite good). Unfortunately that's about it.

The bad: Heavy Metal and Final Fantasy DO NOT MIX! The OtherWorlds theme is an insult to the Final Fantasy series. It sounds like something a 14 year old would make banging on instruments would make. The FF Preclude is badly butchered, and the usual FF ending theme is missing at the end. I consider this heresy. I think Uematsu is losing it, and he should let someone else take over as the composer for the FF games.

Overall, I think the game is quite good, although the music is a travesty to the series. They sort of screwed up on the ending, but I guess you can't win them all.</div>

 #25589  by WooJin
 Sun Sep 09, 2001 11:42 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Bleh, you could've seen the ending coming a mile away :P</div>
 #25590  by Don
 Sun Sep 09, 2001 4:24 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It didn't accomplish what they'rehoping to accomplish, IMO.</div>

 #25591  by Gone to Shakers
 Mon Sep 10, 2001 8:35 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Good thoughts, but overall, buy or borrow?</div>
 #25593  by Don
 Mon Sep 10, 2001 10:25 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I mean, I buy all the Final Fantasies even if they suck, and this one is actually quite good.

<b>Spoiler Message:<b>
<span style="background: black; color: black;">The game is a lot like Terranigma, IMO...</span></div>

 #25594  by Zeus76
 Mon Sep 10, 2001 10:32 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>FF7 + FF8. 'Nuff said</div>

 #25596  by Stephen
 Mon Sep 10, 2001 10:50 pm
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Goddamnit, another suscriber to the purist tenets of FF VI + IX. ;P FF VIII sucks, sure, but VII's far and away the definitive RPG for the PSX.</div>

 #25597  by Eric
 Mon Sep 10, 2001 11:45 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>You're both a buncha anal assholes. FFVII was good. :)</div>

 #25599  by Stephen
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:26 am
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Who's the other one?</div>

 #25600  by Gone to Shakers
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 12:58 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I liked the beginning of FF7, but the rest I found boring, FF8 I actually liked believe it or not, I just hated the whole Draw system and the slowness of the game kinda ruined it for me</div>

 #25601  by Eric
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:23 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I was waiting on Seeker to reply, because I know his stance. :)</div>

 #25602  by Gone to Shakers
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:34 am
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't judge every single future game in the FF series on one game, FF7 isn't going to effect my opinion, In truth, I just couldn't get into FF7 after Midgar,</div>

 #25604  by Torgo
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 1:40 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I thought FF7 was damn good. FF8 could've been better but I still think it's a pretty good game on it's own. The only truly disappointing FF for me was 5. Aside from the Job system and only one likeable character (Gilgamesh), the whole game felt like a chore.</div>

 #25605  by Blotus
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:31 am
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Bah. You're all a buncha impatient, purist bastards! All of ya! FF8 was great. Still one of the best endings I've seen, and has, argueably, one of the best soundtracks of the series (at least, I'd argue that).</div>

 #25606  by ManaMan
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 3:39 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica; text-align: left; '>VII was good... If anything 8 and 9 stunk.</div>

 #25613  by Zeus76
 Tue Sep 11, 2001 6:58 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Only when it comes to pushing the genre into the mainstream. As a game, it was above average, which is horrible for a Final Fantasy game</div>

 #25620  by Gone to Shakers
 Wed Sep 12, 2001 5:00 pm
<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>FF8 had the best atmosphere of any FF game, I'll give you that,</div>

 #25640  by Stephen
 Thu Sep 13, 2001 1:48 am
<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I found it ersatz and sterile.</div>

 #25644  by Blotus
 Thu Sep 13, 2001 2:58 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Dunno about that... but best story (maybe tied with FF7) for sure.</div>