The Shrine

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Just curious if I'm the only one being suckered into buying a Gamecube because of Resident Evil? It's coming out April 30th.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I want to play the remake, but it alone is not enough to warrant me purchasing the system.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I won't get one until later this year when all the good stuff will be out</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>LoL, good stuff... that's funny :) How can one invest in a system when the developing company doesn't even believe in it?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>This is going to be an interesting explanation.</div>

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>You said it man.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Even I can't deny the better GC games are coming out this year. But RE just happens to be my flagship title.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Yep! Resident Evil... um... Resident Evil... Prefect Dark 2... eh... Resident Evil... etc.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You know something, Eric? I think you and I might be Shinji Mikami's bitches. Whichever system he makes RE games for, we follow... shit, we ARE bitches.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>You two are bitches anyway. RE or otherwise.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Uh, explain</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Me neither. It's Zelda, Metroid, PD, and such that'll get me to buy the system. I don't like survival horror games enough to buy a system for it, that's why I haven't played Silent Hill 2 yet</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Wounded by your rapier wit, Black Lotus.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Fellow sucker here.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well you're my bitch cause I'm not giving you any damn D&D ROM links until you apologize. :P</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, there's Mario Sunshine, Metroid Prime, StarFox Adventures, Zelda, RE & RE: Zero. Considering I don't buy a hella lot of games in general I could afford to pick 5 or so titles up.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>exactly what I said. Nintendo doesn't even believe in GameCube's success; they know it can't compete with PS2 / Xbox so they're pouring more resources into GBA</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Dear God, man. That's not only ridiculous sounding, it's completely wrong. If that was the case, why the hell would they pay through the nose for RE? Why would they create the Triforce? These types of decisions aren't made by a company who's throwing in the towel. They made to increase market share</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Don't forget RE4...</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I said this year.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well you can't just sit by and look like you've completely given up.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>You're non-stop fun, Steve. =)</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Which other console has Nintendo released a Mario game, a Metroid game, a Starfox game, a Zelda game, and 14 other titles in the first year of its release?</div>

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Of those I'm really only interested in the RE games, and Mario Sunshine if it's like Mario 64 (I'll wait and see how this so-called 'Celda' turns out).</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>And what support do you have for this analysis?</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>*raises hand*</div>

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm just a jukebox of hilarity. With free play all night!</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They've already repeatedly said they're not in direct competition with Microshaft and Sony, so why pay so much to steal one of the biggest franchises for a market they're pretty weak in? Now, they're not gonna win this round, but they're sure as hell trying to take as much market share as they can</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.actsofgord.com/Proclamations ... html">Gord speaks on Gamecube</a>

Among other sources, Gord knows more about the gaming world than anyone else here by far</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I see a lot about the odd stacked against the Gamecube, but I see nothing on how Nintendo has given up on it. Not to mention I am highly suspect of an analysis coming from someone so full of himself.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>And if you read the site you'd know his egotism is for fun / jokes, and the man owned his owned a successful Video Game store for years... I think he knows what he's talking about</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I think saying they're giving up is a fair summation of your statements. And Zeus owned a store, so why should this guy be more credible than him?</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Nintendo at no point said "we can't compete", they said "we're not in the same market". There's a HUGE difference in those statements. It has been twisted by the anti-Nintendo people to mean "we can't compete". Take personal opinion out of this for this particular discussion. It makes no difference what system anyone here prefers. It's a market issue. Sony and Xbox are competing for the set-top box market, Nintendo just wants games. It might seem like a minor difference, but it's not. When it comes to games they compete, but there's other factors for Sony and Microshaft, like the digital cameras, keyboards, hard-drives, etc. They're trying to make their systems do much more, Nintendo isn't interested in that, it's not what they do. If they tried, they would bankrupt the company. But when it comes to the games market, they're a powerhouse. They'll let Matsushita (Panasonic) worry about that (who, BTW, is the biggest electronics company in Japan, not Sony), that's why they partnered with the hardware (good move, massively cut down the manufacturing costs of the games and the disc drives). So, they might be in it in a very indirect way, but they're not really in the same market as Sony and Microsoft. It's like saying a Toyota Corolla and a BMW M5 (the sports car) are in the same market. They're both cars, but they're different markets.

That's the point. Nintendo knows it can't compete with Sony and Microsoft when it comes to an all-encompassing, set-top box market, nor are they pretending to. But if you're talking about the games market, not only can they compete, they're a powerhouse, and everyone knows it. The figures proved that, they more than doubled the second-place publisher, which was EA, in software and they're actually breaking even on the 'Cube hardware now and will be making money on it by the end of the year. Let's see when Microsoft (never) and Sony (3-4 years) will start making money on their systems. Also, if the Japanese analysts are correct and Nintendo does capture 30% of the market there, they'll have not only massively increased their market share in their home territory but also firmly established themselves as the powerhouse they used to be again in their now market (from a personal publisher and hardware revenue standpoint, which is what all companies and shareholders care about).

And that's what business is all about, making money. Don't just look at the figures and say "Sony sells 50 million games and Nintendo only 10 million", look at it from the standpoint where "how much money is Nintendo making vs Sony". Just because you have 5x the revenue it doesn't mean you have more profit, and profit - well, net income after taxes - is what business is all about.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think Nintendo makes excellent games and I liked the Titanic movie, therefore, my opinion means nothing on any subject</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I can differentiate between your tastes and your assesments of the industry.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>In a year or so I see Gamecube being THE 5th-Gen console to own. Mark my words, young one!</div>

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>what? Expect to come in here and see me try to retort? No. What Zeus said is true; Sony went out and built their system from scratch which cost a lot of R&D money and in the end put them ahead but at a financial cost. Nintendo didn't want to bother with that; they just wanted to make decent games and that's what they're doing. Did I underestimate Nintendo? Yes. I was a Sega child; Sega screwed me over with those promises of the 32X and then left it to try to do Saturn which in turn bombed too.

Bell rang, gotta go... wanted more closure on this but I guess it'll have to do</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Exceptions make the rule</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Heh, I was a Sega fan probably until I played Illusions of Gaia or Final Fantasy III. I own about 45 SNES games, 40 of those were published fall '94 or later, SNES more or less sucked for the first 3 years, the last two years were the Golden age of Video games.</div>

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>So you're changing your mind on Zelda now? Haha! I gotta admit though, it just came to a point where all of the sudden everyone stopped caring about the graphics change or something</div>

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt, I'm HIGHLY cautious with this title. I'll probley rent before I buy to see if I can tolerate the graphics.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You make it sound like a bad thing.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Gord is God. Thanks for reminding me to check his new shit.</div>

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Ditto. Lord knows Zeus' opinions on politics go from "right on" to "WTF?!".</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Oh yeah, I mean the SNES only had shit games in its first 2 years, like Super Mario World, Super Punchout, Actraiser, F-Zero, Legend of Zelda, Super Metroid. Pure junk</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3 ... 01.html</a>

I've never heard that phrase used with that language, but you might find this Straight Dope interesting.</div>

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Castlevania 4. And I think Metroid was after the first two years; it was one of the first 24 meg games.</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>1993, says so in the opening of the game. Released here in the end of '93 if I'm not mistaken</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>LOL. I like that one and I have to admit, I wholeheartedly agree. Imagine an exception proved the rule (law) when it came to gravity?</div>

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's kinda easy for you to understand where I come from in politics. All my views stem from the fact that I despise the political system for the fact it allows so many superbly fake people to manipulate the masses for personal gain with no accountability. Basically, I despise the system</div>