The Shrine

PostPosted:**Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:41 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.itworld.com/App/4201/030203x ... losses/</a>

Xbox loss getting worse.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:51 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But they're entrenched in #2 worldwide now (well, not Japan, but pretty solid in US and Europe). That's what they were expecting</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 3:17 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>GC a close 3rd. It won't be long before they take 2nd place. Trust me.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:47 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.the-magicbox.com/game011703. ... 703.htm</a>

This was from Microsofts latest press meeting. Total shipments from launch November 15th 2001 to January 16th, 2003 . North America = 5.4 million, Europe = 1.8 million, other = 850,000.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:16 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>And I remember them expecting a big loss as they established themselves...

If I cared, I'd look for the article.

KO-</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:17 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>GC sucks. Slam your head repeatedly into a bus stop pole. Trust me.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:30 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.gamemarketwatch.com/news/ite ... id=2581</a>

I am not sure where you get this Microsoft is #2 worldwide. Of the 41.9 Million console units shipped last year, PS2 = 63%, Gamecube = 21%, Xbox = 16%</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 9:36 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>That article is a bit old, and the X-Box beat on the GC during the holidays.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:29 pm**

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:52 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.cpwire.com/archive/2002/11/2 ... 208.asp</a>

All I could find</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Feb 05, 2003 11:40 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>From a game standpoint, GC is the DC of this generation: best games that no one is playing. From a sales standpoint, they have a lot of work to do to overtake MS</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:18 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That's not a good comparisson. Dreamcast had a major piracy problem, Gamecube doesn't. No game on Dreamcast sold over a million, there have been several on Gamecube that have (SSBM has sold 3 million+ WW)</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:18 am**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Umm, look harder, you have this tendancy to only find Nintendo material, that makes them look like gods.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:45 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Why bother? I don't really care all that much, plus you could very well be wrong.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:57 am**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well why would you bother to post Nintendo's selling of certain console games when the question asked was how they did during the holidays.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 1:59 am**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/busi ... 500.htm</a>

Gee that was easy use google, and put in "Microsoft beat Nintendo holidays"</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 8:38 am**

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Isn't the loss caused by the good sales of XBOX, since MS suffers a loss for each XBOX sold?</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:45 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If Microsoft wants to lose 10 billion dollars on a console, I'm not going to complain. I think the next time around they will go with a cheaper model though. Unless Bill Gates is just in the business for fun =P</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:47 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Marketing costs and expensive projects like Xbox live (didn't they say they were going to invest 2 billion into it over the next couple of years?). I think I'll stick with my theory that Bill Gates isn't in the business for profit, he's in it for fun =P</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:56 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>For dominance. I spoke to someone who works for a small family owned ISP and he says that MS runs MSN.COM at a loss. No ISP can compete with MSN and they're on the way to dominating the ISP market. MS is doing the same in the console market. But Sony is well entrenched.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Feb 06, 2003 6:57 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Your article is 3 months older.</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Feb 07, 2003 3:56 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Shh! That's not supposed to be relevant! Shh!</div>

The Shrine

Xbox loss getting worse.

Xbox loss getting worse.

Yeah, and their stock has also been a solid performer due in large part because of the obvious long term support, thus far success of the Xbox and the prospects of it's future...regardless, sounds like the other divisions make current console losses a non

Can't argue with facts like that.....

That's the exact opposite of what my article says =P But I did buy an Xbox last year because I like a lot of the games coming out for it.