The Shrine

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 8:25 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Top selling games of 1997:

Rank Title Platform Publisher
1 Mario Kart 64 Nintendo 64 Nintendo
2 Star Fox 64 with Rumble Pak Nintendo 64 Nintendo
3 Super Mario 64 Nintendo 64 Nintendo
4 Diddy Kong Racing Nintendo 64 Nintendo
5 Goldeneye 007 Nintendo 64 Nintendo
6 NFL GameDay '98 PlayStation Sony
7 Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire Nintendo 64 Nintendo
8 Madden NFL '98 PlayStation Electronic Arts
9 Final Fantasy VII PlayStation Sony
10 Crash Bandicoot Sony PlayStation Sony
11 Turok: Dinosaur Hunter Nintendo 64 Acclaim Entertainment
12 NBA Live '98 PlayStation Electronic Arts
13 Cruisin' USA Nintendo 64 Nintendo
14 Tomb Raider 2 PlayStation EIDOS
15 Crash Bandicoot 2 PlayStation Sony
16 Wave Race 64 Nintendo 64 Nintendo
17 NFL Quarterback Club '98 Nintendo 64 Acclaim Entertainment
18 Nascar '98 PlayStation Electronic Arts
19 Jet Moto PlayStation Sony
20 Madden 64 Nintendo 64 Electronic Arts

Top selling games of 1998:

RANK TITLE PLATFORM PUBLISHER PRICE

1 GOLDENEYE 007 NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $49
2 ZELDA: OCARINA TIME NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $59
3 GRAN TURISMO RACING PLAYSTATION SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT $41
4 BANJO-KAZZOIE NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $50
5 SUPER MARIO 64 NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $41
6 RESIDENT EVIL 2 PLAYSTATION CAPCOM $50
7 WCW/NWO REVENGE NINTENDO 64 THQ $60
8 WWF WARZONE PLAYSTATION ACCLAIM ENTERTAINMENT $42
9 CRASH BANDICOOT 2 PLAYSTATION SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT $25
10 MADDEN 99 PLAYSTATION ELECTONIC ARTS $41
11 MARIO KART 64 NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $41
12 TEKKEN 3 PLAYSTATION NAMCO $44
13 CRASH BANDICOOT WARP PLAYSTATION SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT $40
14 NFL GAMEDAY 99 PLAYSTATION 989 STUDIOS $40
15 METAL GEAR SOLID PLAYSTATION KONAMI OF AMERICA $48
16 YOSHI'S STORY NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $50
17 1080 SNOWBOARDING NINTENDO 64 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $50
18 TOMB RAIDER PLAYSTATION EIDOS INTERACTIVE $21
19 CRASH BANDICOOT PLAYSTATION SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT $21
20 NASCAR 99 ` PLAYSTATION ELECTRONIC ARTS $40

Case closed.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:02 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Wow, all those 1st party titles, no wonder nobody wants to develop on Nintendo systems.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 9:29 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yes Eric, nobody wants to develop for Nintendo systems, which is exactly why just about everyone does.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:08 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I do not consider this a problem, because that's all I have time for. But seriously, don't kid yourself.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:57 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>No shit Seek, Nintendo makes like 1/3 of the games that other systems do. Look at is this way, Nintendo makes so few good games that when they do come out you are forced to buy it since its good. PS has SO MANY good games out there that i cant even keep up if i wanted to.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 10:59 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>No shit Seek, Nintendo makes like 1/3 of the games that other systems do. Look at is this way, Nintendo makes so few good games that when they do come out you are forced to buy it since its a rarity. PS has SO MANY good games out there that i cant even keep up if i wanted to.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:00 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>No shit Seek, Nintendo makes like 1/3 of the games that other systems do. Look at is this way, Nintendo makes so few good games that when they do come out you are forced to buy it since its a rarity. PS has SO MANY good games out there that its impossible to keep up even if one wanted to.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:05 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>You brought this up......why?</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:08 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Exactly. But Seeker is blind. Seeker will never see the truth.....hence his name.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:09 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>And if you are the ONLY company developing games worth anything on your platform, it's not hard to sell a lot of them</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:13 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You kept going on about how Final Fantasy 7 was what made the playstation popular in North America. I've been disagreeing, there's my evidence to back it.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:15 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The topic was clearly directed at G-man, not only are you completely off topic but I really don't give a crap about what you're running your mouth about.</div>

PostPosted:**Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:16 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Good for you Kupek.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:09 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>That conversation had to do with PSX and Saturn. There were more games than just FF7 that made the PSX popular.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:48 am**

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Jesus fucking Christ, pussies. Why are you all getting so goddamned upset about which system sold more? Does it matter that much to you?</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:16 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Apparently to Seeker. He took the time to make a list.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:30 am**

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:46 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Obviously that was my point. You claimed FF7 was the reason PSX became popular, it certainly was not.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:56 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Obviously you took it out of context. It became even MORE popular. Get it yet? You are one whiney little snot. Get over it. It's in the past.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:58 am**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Who says anyones upset? I am just offering proof to contradict G-man's statements that the Saturn was popular until Final Fantasy 7 was released, and that Final Fantasy 7 was the reason PSX was popular. That I did successfully just by posting the evidence. If that post makes you angry then there is probably something wrong with you, I've suspected it for a while now.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:07 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>N64 wasn't even in the conversation.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:52 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>and I didn't mention N64 here.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:53 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Then why isn't it in the top 20 for 1998 the year after its release? You whiney little snot.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:58 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I see that you are getting very frustrated with losing this argument as you have resorted to childish insults now. Then again, this sort of immature behaiour is expected out of you.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:06 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Oh ...those games you listed aren't N64 games? I still don't see how that list has to do with PSX's popularity. Then again, you're about as skewed as Iraq's Information Minister.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:08 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>It = PSX. The commercials for FF7 certainly exposed PSX to a LOT of people. Seeker - it's time to move on. This debate was over YEARS ago. Go on. Shoo.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:39 pm**

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It sold about 3.2 million overall. That's a high selling game.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 3:52 pm**

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I'll agree with Seeker on that one. PSX was doing pretty well before FF7. It certainly helped out, and it definitely caused a push for RPGs in America, but I don't exactly believe that it skyrocketed the PSX's popularity to the levels it eventually reached.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:16 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Those are TRSTS lists from 97 and 98 to prove that Final Fantasy 7 WASN'T the huge game you said it was in North America, I don't know why it is that you are having so much difficulty understanding that, it's really quite simple.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 4:53 pm**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>The 97 list is wrong. FF7 was released in North America the same day N64 was launched. Get a list that's not doctored by you.</div>

PostPosted:**Thu Apr 10, 2003 8:57 pm**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It was released 11 months after the N64...</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:58 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Oops. I thought FF7 was released at the same time as the rival of some sort.</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:11 am**

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>No, the N64 kicked a lot of ass in the beginning with Mario 64. It did fairly well in North America, but only sold about half of the PSX. It was in Japan where it got killed</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Apr 11, 2003 9:08 am**

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Seeker doesn't thinks so. He's Seeker....the blind.</div>

PostPosted:**Fri Apr 11, 2003 12:49 pm**

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>G-man, you really have to lay off the crack.</div>

The Shrine

For G-man

For G-man

Okay, I love my GameCube. But there are a whopping three games for it that I would considering purchasing, two of which I own. All three are made by Nintendo.

If you had been paying attention to the topic name you would have noticed that it was directed specifically at G-man. If you had been paying attention to the posts below you'd also note that it was in strict reference to Saturn, PSX, and Final Fantasy 7.

"It" by FF7 or PSX? There is no evidence that says FF7 had anything to do with the PSX popularity here. Also if you would notice, FF7 didn't sell well in 1998.