Old news....new numbers.

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Estimated Current Installed Base (Various Sources)


PlayStation 2

North America
26,420,000

Japan
14,170,000

Europe and others
19,400,000

Total 59,990,000

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GBA

North America
14,540,000

Japan
9,240,000

Europe and others
7,920,000

Total
31,700,000

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GBA-SP

North America
830,000

Japan
820,000

Europe and others
460,000

Total
2,110,000


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GameCube

North America
5,130,000

Japan
2,470,000

Europe and others
1,950,000

Total
9,550,000


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Xbox

North America
6,200,000

Japan
1,000,000

Europe and others
2,200,000

Total
9,400,000

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As you can see....world wide, Gamecube leads Xbox.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.the-magicbox.com/topten3.htm">here</a>

I think that's SHIPPED numbers...here are the numbers from Magicbox, current up to Sept. 17. Scroll down a bit to get to the figures</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, US numbers, anywas</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>By a measly 100K?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Microsoft's next game console will go neck and neck with Sony if they release them in the same time period, regardless of how many dorks won't buy it because it has "Microsoft" on it.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>First they have to get some developer support, then maybe I'll buy more than 3 games for their next system.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well it'll be out and running neck and neck with Sony's next system at the same time period, I think it'll be a little closer then the 4 year gap between the PS2 & XBox release.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>It all depends on the developers. NOTHING, and I mean NO FUCKING THING matters except for the developers! You could have a piece of shit 16-bit console, and if it has more developers, it wins the console wars.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It's not like they're stuggling to get developers. 3rd party products actually sell on the Xbox.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, but Sony's always had bigger and better developers for their systems.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It'll survive just because it's Microsoft and Bill Gates still has 20B left. But I doubt it will come close to Sony in Sales just based on the fact that there aren't any exclusive big name developers for the Console. It's still geared toward a more PC gaming market, which isn't even that big.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.the-magicbox.com/toptenDenge ... eki.htm</a>

Not really, they are still WAY behind Sony and just barely ahead of Nintendo in North America only. Xbox titles period never make the Japanese charts.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Xbox fans are always touting how they're Numbah 2 in da world. They're not.</div>