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  • Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. It's really cheap now, I recommend this gaame to anyone who likes good gameplay in RPG's.

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #38644  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:36 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I know there was already a post on it, but mostly it was just a lot of praise for the game, this is a mini-review:

1) Gameplay, it's tactical, you move your party around, the further you move, the more AP you use. The more AP you have, the more attacks you can make, it's similar to Xenogears in the way that it has combo's, weak, medium, and powerful attacks, but the BoF system is WAY more mature and solid. The Gameplay might remind you a bit of Vagrant Story meets RPG's in general. It's not a typical RPG, it feels more like an Adventure game than an RPG. The Gameplay is excellent among the best I have ever seen in an RPG.

2) The Adventure and Setting, it has New Game + options similar to Chrono Trigger, you can restart the game with Party experience points (which are experience points that you can divide among your party members at will), half your Gold unless you have it in storage (then you get), all skills you acquired throughout the game, and any weapons and items you have in storage. The setting is simple, you are about 1 kilometer under ground, all human society lives under ground now (well, all the races present in previous BoF games are here too) because the upper world is no longer habitable (Remember BoF 3 when most of the world was uninhabitable?). Society is like a typical post-apocalypse dystopia, you have different sorts of groups, and people are ranked by birthright and ability (Your character is ranked D/8132 and a Ranger).

3) Saving, you can only have one save per game, one permanent save and one temporary save. The Permanent saves requuire tokens, like Resident Evil, and can only be made at certain save points; permanent save points are just like traditional RPG's and games. temporary save points are similar to Ogre battle, you can save at any point during the game, but as soon as you save the game quits, and as soon as you load that save, the temporary save dissappears (so if you hit reset or something, you begin at the last permanent save point). If you die, you have the options of reseting the game and retaining all the stats, items, etc.. you had at the last save point, or restarting from the beginning of the game (New Game+ from Chrono Trigger), restarting from the last save point with all abilities and I think half the Gold and all party experience points gained since (Though I am not sure on this, I have never used this option before). It's complicated, and I haven't read up completely on it.

4) Plot and characters, the plot is excellent, if you are expecting something similar to the latest FF games, Xenosaga, Fire Emblem, and stuff like that where you can have literally hour long sequences with only plot, prepare to be surprised. The game still has a relatively complex story, but the amount of Dialogue and such in the game is on the level of most SNES RPG titles. the characters aren't anything extraordinary when compared to other RPG's. One cool feature is that when you use the New Game + options, you can unlock many additional cut scenes each time, so you learn more about the characters and the general plot. It is not a very long game, you can finish it in under 15 hours if you know exactly what you are doing (I've never finished it before, I just started really playing it seriously fairly recently, but I know it can be finished in that time because people have done it). This sort of system makes for great replayability mainly because if you learned that sort of stuff early on without knowing what happens later, it would just make little-no sense, so playing it again later and seeing those additional scenes will make the game much more interesting. It's also not incredibly long, and it's fun, so replaying it won't seem like a chore as it does for the most part with mostly all other RPG's.

5) graphics, sound, and music: The music reminds me a lot of other games that have been out before, it reminds me a lot of Vagrant Story, and even a bit of Secret of Evermore. The graphics are below the level of some N64 games I have seen, but they seem fairly reasonable for this type of game, and do not take away from it at all. The sound, well, it's quite clear that the voice for Ryu (the characters have the same names as some previous BoF games) is the same as the one used for adult Link in Ocarina of Time, Soul Calibur, and Super Smash Brothers.

All in all, it's already been said here before, this game is nice breath of fresh air to the RPG scene. It's worth your money.</div>
 #38657  by Gentz
 Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:37 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>It's a really fun game, but it's hard as <i>hell</i>. I actually haven't beaten it yet because I acidentally restarted from the save point in the last castle. I have to replay the game, but now I've lost half my party exp and such. I fought up to the second-to-last boss though.

After about the halfway point the bosses in DQ become <I>disgustingly</i> hard, btw.</div>
 #38661  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:48 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I just finished beating off the 4 Trinity members who tried to kidnap Nina, and I still have not used any additional points up on my D-Counter, are their any places where I would be expected to use them? Or is it better just not to touch them at all for the course of the game?</div>
 #38665  by Gentz
 Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:04 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Right after you get back into the city? The fight where the guys use the poison gas? If so you're probably about a third of the way through. You want to save your D-Counter as much as humanly possible because the bosses in the last third of the game get fairly nuts, but if this is still your first time through without restarting then you shouldn't worry about it too much because there's no way you're going to survive to the end anyhow.

But always remember to use the dragon form sparingly - it seems to go down a lot quicker than one would expect. I had 80% on the second to last boss and just started going to town on him dragon-style, only to accidentally fly over the 100% mark and send me back to the beginning of the castle with no items, money, or party exp.</div>
 #38666  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:05 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That's right before going into the Biocorp lab after coming up from the lower sector (and the waste zone), I finished the Biocorp lab, the Ice caves, the Industrial zone, and the old trade facility. I got to the Trinity headquarters and then just got past the part where the Trinity people try to kidnap Nina. Now we're heading into an area called life-line.</div>

 #38672  by Gentz
 Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:50 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Ah, ok, you're pretty far then, actually. In any case, you don't need to worry about your D-Counter TOO much the first time through. It's feasible to beat the game after your first restart though, so I'd save it as much as possible then.</div>

 #38697  by Derithian
 Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:29 am
<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>Best $14.99 I've spent in a long while for a new game</div>
 #38721  by Julius Seeker
 Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:06 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Sakimoto has a tendency to use music clips over multiple games. The music in Final Fantasy Tactics is almost identical to the Ogre Battle music. Similarilly, there is music from Ogre Battle and Vagrant Story within Breath of Fire 5.</div>