Is it just me or is DBZ budokai 2 the best fighting game ever created?

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Is it just me or is DBZ budokai 2 the best fighting game ever created?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Cherry Bomber! Baldy! :P Budokai 2 is fun, really grasps the feel of DBZ.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Not the best. Budoukai is good for the sake of fun, but when my friends and I get to talking smack, we whip out with SCII.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I haven't playeed it, but I am not a fan of DBZ so I probably neever will. Anyways, welcome back!</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I agree SC2 was done masterfully. I really don't like Fighting games (sorry, but I especially hate those 2D Capcom ones), but this game I really liked.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>You never liked classic Street Fighter 2? Or just the new age 2D games?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Too repetetive, plus Mortal Kombat was always way better anyways.</div>

[Lox(BAH!)]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I have the first one and it is fun. The 2nd didn't offer enough differences to warrant my purchase though.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>My only problem with the game is that there's technically only one character...it's a good character, but there's only one : )</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>I really liked number one with its story mode and tournament mode. I've played number 2 for like 30 min with my cousin and it looked much the same, but better graphics and cooler moves. I'll get it when its 20 bucks for sure.</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>There's tons of strategy in budokai, it's the ultimate dueling game!</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The second is SUPERIOR to the first in everyway.</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>yeah, playing it is like watching the show.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>It's no Firebat Madness.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>LOL</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I wholeheartedly agree</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I wouldn't dare compare another game to FB madness. ; )</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I'm tempted to cry blasphemy...</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Alright, I finally figured out what you were getting at with this post. And you're wrong. I can't see how you'd have enough information to even make an outrageous claim such as that. You've only seen a total of 8 of the characters. You've maybe seen 10 percent of the game!</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Haha. Yeah, I figured that was probably confusing as hell. It just seemed to me like all the characters have basically the same list of moves - though there's a great deal of variety in the animations of the moves between the different characters.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Though this is a novel solution to the question of balance : )</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Just a queestion, what does Budokai mean? It sounds like the name of a south East European prostitute.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>My DBZ is a little rusty, but I think it was the term used in the series for the World Martial Arts Tournament. or it just might be something else all together. lol.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Heh, that's one of those answers where you look....open your mouth, pause....then just walk away.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think it literally means tournament, although it should be noted I know dick about the japanese language.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Speaking of which, did anybody ever save those maps I did? I had a modified version of Elemental RPG (tweaked for the new characters) and Marine Madness.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Uhhh...no. It might be a fun game, but it is nowhere NEAR the technical prowess of fighter series such as Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibre, Marvel vs. Capcom (or SNK vs. Capcom). Sure, it probably beats out Mortal Kombat, but that doesn't take much.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Is it just me, or is this quite possibly the most technical fighting engine ever created? I mean, I can handle the basic stuff pretty well, but these evade three step throw evade counter air juggle seven hit combo with a smashing attack to hurt the opponents recovery so you can follow with a wall juggle to do another seventy points of damage is a bit much.

I mean, I'd like to get out of a throw, but I just eat them because I can't input P+G F,P+G DF,P+G and D,P+G within the two frames they give you to do it.

And Akira, I mean, goddamn man, some of his moves have you pressing three opposite directions before even slapping the punch button.

Again, this game is cool and all, but some of the stuff they put in there seems fucking ridiculous.

BTW, it doesn't help when I watch the CPU do this shit all the time because it's a fucking computer and doesn't have to deal with a goddamn computer. I swear this game will give me Tourette's.

Bitch-fuck-ass-cunt-shit.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I've gone through 2 computers and 2 reinstalls of Windows, I have nothing. :P</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>VF is a very expert fighting game. Koreans can eat it up. Akira is among the hardest characters (the SPoD, for starters), but doing Kage's Ten-Foot Toss combos is no picnic, either. BTW, you can put the button combos (PG, PKG) to seperate buttons on the console versions.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Ditto. I worked for a while on that Elementals upgrade and I didn't think to save it somewhere.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Uhhhhhhhhhhhh... *slap* Fucking dumbass!</div>

[Don (bah)]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Budokai just means martial arts tournament, though since there is only one of them in the world of Dragonball (the world one) it's understood to be that one.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, thank goodness for those shoulder buttons. I'll be spending a long ass time trying to get this game down, that's for sure.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>The official title for the tournament, if memory serves, is the Tenkaichi Budokai - The Best In the World Martial Arts Tournament</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Throw that idea out the window because this game is far from balanced. Doesn't seem to bother me for some reason though.</div>

[Lox(boogers!)]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Not superior enough for me.  :)</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Hey, at least it's not Bukkake.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I hate the fact that I know what that word means</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>You're not alone my friend....you're not alone.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I wish he were alone. That'd mean I wouldn't have to suffer too...</div>

[Baldarov]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Next thing you'll be telling me that I"M not superior enough for you. And we all know that that's a lie! : )</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Your calling me a dumbass because I realized how boring, simple, and repetetive Street Fighter 2 was?</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>What'd you do, play the CPU all day?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yes, because that is what I do with games that I obviously find very boring, I play them all day long. What do YOU think? moron.....</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>MvC2 is very advanced, for example, and can be hard to negotiate tactics when you controlling your main and support characters. If you brought your support character when your opponent isn't open, he can blast with a super. Sure, you can block it, but the support character can't and takes major damage. Not to mention the wide variety of advanced level moves and strategies that weren't really meant to be in the game.

There are some really fucking amazing combos in the game. <a href="http://ase.tufts.edu/csa/commy/mvc2/">Check out this page!</a> Man, awesome page I just found. The videos bring back memories.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Nowadays Capcom Fighters are all button mashers, and it seems to be the bigger the move the better. Soul Calibur on the other hand I found to be about 1000 times more strategic, it's the only fighting game that I can think of right now where good players will absolutely squash others. Whereas I just picked up Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and beat a hardcore Capcom fighter fan 9 times out of 10 just by button mashing.

Which game series is better? I obviously am quite strong on the opinion that Mortal Kombat was the better series, it was also a much more ground breaking series.

From a popularity standpoint, if you look back at the sales of Mortal Kombat games across the consoles, they have always sold millions of copies each; they were among the best selling games of the 16-bit console generation. Street Fighter games generally were lucky to pass the 500K mark (and only the first one did it). Of course this is in North America, in Japan the situation was quite reversed (obviously because the game was made in Japan). Mortal Kombat remained the most popular fighting game series in North America (aside from a brief stint in the the mid 90's with Killer Instinct) until Namco took the crown with Tekken 3. For me, it was Soul Calibur that was the first real fighting game I can actually say I really loved playing. it didn't have the best sales (it was pirated to hell and back), but it did have the best reviews.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>After all, to brilliant minds like yours, watching over someone's shoulder for a few seconds is ample enough to not only make a fully informed opinion of a game, but also probably enough time to discover the Grand Unified Theory of Physics thereby linking together the disciplines of General Physics and Quantum Mechanics AND applying the teleportation of atoms to people sized objects.

Again, I stand in sheer awe of your brilliance, oh mighty one.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>> After all, to brilliant minds like yours, watching over someone's shoulder for a few seconds is ample enough to not only make a fully informed opinion of a game, but also probably enough time to discover the Grand Unified Theory of Physics thereby linking together the disciplines of General Physics and Quantum Mechanics AND applying the teleportation of atoms to people sized objects.


Seriously, you really do need to get a life, badly.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You know, I was having fun with this flame battle, and then you make this lame come back about me needing a life. You do this every fucking time man. Seriously, I don't care if you have to steal quotes from Carlin or something, just give me better material than this!</div>