The Shrine

Much like the Revolution controller, will anyone care?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/20 ... 33941.html

But I'm willing to bet the Revolution will have far greater developer support than Romero :-)

Between him and Illiad, is it worth making the generalization that when someone fakes their own death, it's pretty much a sign that they've stopped producing anything of value?

When did he produce anything of value? Other than everyone got to call him their bitch.

Barret wrote:When did he produce anything of value? Other than everyone got to call him their bitch.

Well, he was the visionary for Commander Keen, Wolfenstein 3D, and Doom (Carmack was the guy who made it happen), so I guess you can say he's done SOMETHING of value :-)

I dunno, he probably thought of them, but Carmack gets more props for actually getting it out there. If Romero is who he sounds like, he would have kept it to himself and all his elitest friends and been a pompous prick.

Barret wrote:I dunno, he probably thought of them, but Carmack gets more props for actually getting it out there. If Romero is who he sounds like, he would have kept it to himself and all his elitest friends and been a pompous prick.

Carmack said "hey, look what I can do" from a technical standpoint. It's Romero who said "hey, we should use it to make this" from a visionary standpoint. I don't care what you can do technically. You can have the best tools in the world, but if you don't have someone there to properly use the tools, the tools are useless.

Since he's left, all they've done at id is refine the FPS genre. They're really lost the vision that made them what they are. They're now milking the cow, they're one of the companies that's positioned themselves as a genre leader, as that developer said in the article I posted on why Nintendo needs to innovate.

Read the book Masters of Doom or wait for the Showtime movie that's coming out. Carmack is a pure programmer, Romero was the gamer as well as a programmer. He's the one who had the vision of the games. It's his vision that's killilng him as a deisgner now without Carmack; the whole its-cool-but-not-really-feasible-or-fun thing. That and his arrogance.

After reading about his recent history, I think I'd agree with you. If I had a gaming company, I doubt I'd hire him anymore. Seems like his ego needs the tender slap of reality, just a bit. (And by "tender slap" I actually mean "vicious, unprovoked beating".)

Then again, if the ION Storm saga didn't knock him back to Earth, I don't know what would.

Mental wrote:After reading about his recent history, I think I'd agree with you. If I had a gaming company, I doubt I'd hire him anymore. Seems like his ego needs the tender slap of reality, just a bit. (And by "tender slap" I actually mean "vicious, unprovoked beating".)

Then again, if the ION Storm saga didn't knock him back to Earth, I don't know what would.

Oh, it didn't. Otherwise he might have tried at Midway. Right now, the new Gauntlet is a mess

<font size=+4><center>John Romero
is going to
make you his bitch</center></font>

Ah, what an ad campaign that was. I want to invent a time machine, then go back and rewrite the ad to read:

<font size=+4><center>The free market economy

is going to

make John Romero its bitch</center></font>

My problem with your post is that everytime I see the title I think:

"John Romero is back...in pog form."

Lox with the uber burn! Pogs...omg, that's so 1992!

Seriously though, if John Romero could, he'd sell his shit and say it smelled like roses.

Carmack is indeed talented, and Romero is just a suit who wants to be a developer but lacks the l337n3$$ to do so. Did that one chick break up with him and start doing porn after she posed for Playboy?

Ion Storm was a joke, but didn't they at least produce one hit game?

Whatever happened to Psygnosis after Sony bought them out?

And what happened to monolith!?!?! Shogo ruled!