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Next-Gen Development Libraries Thread

PostPosted:Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:14 am
by Nev
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstatio ... opment_Kit

This actually makes me think that Sony has a shot at "winning" the next round of console "wars", if we still want to have that discussion. From a development standpoint, this is quite good, I think. These are very, very good libraries, from what I understand - though it's very odd that it's only OpenGL ES. Why on earth wouldn't they provide full support for the full version? OpenGL ES is a pretty limited subset of OpenGL - meant for very limited systems - it's what the newer 3D cell phone games use. I have trouble seeing why a full-featured console wouldn't support the full version. On the other hand, they managed to get plenty of developers for the PS2 with nothing anywhere close to this good. I'm not sure, though, if "sublicensed technologies" means that developers have to pay Epic if they make a game with the Unreal engine, or if Sony's just paid them a gob of money to make it freely available for all. If it's the latter for all of these sublicensed libraries, I think this may easily be the best intrinsic library support a console's had, by far.

The XBox SDK (which I think is just DirectX or something very close to it) has quite a number of features, but I'm not sure how it stacks up to this. If the sublicensing thing means developers use the sublicensed libraries for free, I'm fairly certain that all together they're quite better than DirectX - otherwise, I'm not sure. If the PS3 supported full OpenGL, I'd be again certain that this SDK is better than DirectX, but it only says OpenGL ES...

I don't think the Revolution development SDK has even been announced to anyone other than a few of Nintendo's key studios (which may actually lend support to the "Nintendo doesn't care about 3rd party developers" idea that I was looking for less dubious evidence for).

As for why this is important, the presence of good embedded libraries would actually make me choose to develop for one system over another. Good libraries can cut down on development time - and cost - by a lot, lot, lot.

PostPosted:Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:30 am
by Zeus
PSX was hailed as a very simple system to develop for, which is one of the reasons a lot flocked to it. Sony has always provided very strong developer support, it's one of their strengths

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:38 pm
by Nev
This is just sad, you pig fuckers. We spend days yelling at each other in a console war discussion and then this thread gets one response? Do you know how important library support can be for attracting developers for a system?

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:42 pm
by Lox
Mental wrote:This is just sad, you pig fuckers. We spend days yelling at each other in a console war discussion and then this thread gets one response? Do you know how important library support can be for attracting developers for a system?
Yes, yes I do.

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:31 pm
by Derithian
I do to. I just don't give a shit

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:39 pm
by Nev
My worldwide killing spree will just have to kick off with all of you, this is what I've decided.

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:43 pm
by Zeus
Derithian wrote:I do to. I just don't give a shit
Mostly because you're too busy watching Naruto :-)

Yeah, if it isn't at least a little controversial, it generally gets little play here, aside from political threads, which are generally ignored nowadays

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:54 pm
by Derithian
nah I just really don't care about hardware specs and developere friendliness. if that's what wins the cosole wars I really couldn't care less. If the games are good and there are lots of them I don't really care either. hell they could make it so the only game was a barbie game and I still wouldn't care that it's the worst system in the world. for the most part I really don't care about much of anything anymore.......

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:14 pm
by Nev
That's not usually considered a good thing, D. Feel free to hit me up anytime if you want to chat (and can forgive me for using an Alex Ross avatar).

You still have my contact info?

PostPosted:Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:19 pm
by Derithian
nope I thionk I lost it. or maybe just forget your sn.........don't know and as I said....right now i really don't care. it's amazing. things finally start going my way, tomorrows my birthday and suddenly now I go depressed