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  • Ouch. Old Ion Storm blood feud rages on...

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #116556  by Ishamael
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:33 am
You guys may or may not know this, but John Romero (co-founder of id, guy behind Ion Storm in late 90s, etc) has a blog. In this blog,he made a not-so-nice post about Mike Wilson, former Ion Storm CEO. Romero claims (among other things) Mike Wilson "pretty much just partied all the time and after the whole thing got reined in by Take 2 he went underground for a while, waiting for his next victim/investor so he could go hogwild all over again".

Mike Wilson responded in Romero's blog. Mike Wilson claims (among other things) "You should maybe try the partying, since your unparalleled work ethic and strong character has (just in the time I've known you) left only a bloody trail of ex-wives, fatherless kids, and ill advised breast implants strewn across this fair nation".

Ah yes, a nice old school flamewar brought back. Some of your whipper snappers are probably too young to remember though...

 #116563  by Tessian
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:06 am
Who could forget the huge mess of a game that is Daikatana?

 #116570  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:32 am
Or Killcreek? Every pimple-faced 16-year-old gamers' wet dream.

 #116588  by Anarky
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:42 pm
I've read Masters of Doom a few times now, Romero is such a blow-hard, he really got his ass handed to him on a plate with Wilson's letter.

 #116590  by Zeus
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:38 pm
Anarky wrote:I've read Masters of Doom a few times now, Romero is such a blow-hard, he really got his ass handed to him on a plate with Wilson's letter.
Can't remember, but does he still get residuals on the games they created back then?

 #116591  by Andrew, Killer Bee
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:06 pm
To be honest, they both strike me as idiots.

 #116597  by Imakeholesinu
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:20 pm
Tessian wrote:Who could forget the huge mess of a game that is Daikatana?
Ish made John Romero his bitch.

 #116600  by Blotus
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:35 pm
Romero may well be a tool, but Gamecock can blow me until stop interrupting important speeches.

 #116604  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:34 pm
Wilson > Romero.

 #116642  by Ishamael
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:33 pm
Zeus wrote:
Anarky wrote:I've read Masters of Doom a few times now, Romero is such a blow-hard, he really got his ass handed to him on a plate with Wilson's letter.
Can't remember, but does he still get residuals on the games they created back then?
Nope. He severed all ties.

Also, yes Romero is a bit of a blowhard, but I think he's been vilified far beyond the "damage" he's done. He actually is very talented and he did a ton of cool stuff back in the day.

 #116643  by Ishamael
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:34 pm
SineSwiper wrote:Or Killcreek? Every pimple-faced 16-year-old gamers' wet dream.
Indeed. Gamer girl turn playboy model. It's almost like she crossed the streams.

 #116649  by bovine
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:11 am
Ishamael wrote:It's almost like she crossed the streams.
Ish, have I told you lately that I love both you and your amazing ghostbusters reference?

 #116660  by SineSwiper
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:40 am
John Carmack owns all you bitches! He could kick both of their asses with a rocket blast to the face!

I especially like when he was actually presenting the physics to how the Hulk could feasibly jump that high in the trailers, to which somebody argued against him, and then another poster said "WTF?!?! You're arguing against John Fucking Carmack! When he's not designing Quake physics engines, he's building rockets!"

EDIT: Nevermind, Found it.

 #116671  by Ishamael
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:43 am
Here's Carmack in another Slashdot post from years ago about why he thinks Ion Storm failed.

[quote=bovine]Ish, have I told you lately that I love both you and your amazing ghostbusters reference?[/quote]

Ixnay on the ovelay. Blotus will get jealous.

 #116674  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:09 pm
Carmack has been doing a lot of mobile and handheld games lately. Though I think he does it more as a hobby because he enjoys working on devices with limitations.

If I am recalling correctly, he is a big fan of old computers and gaming consoles (Like Vic 20/C64 era), and the strategies one can use to maximize their potential.