So... I've gain a lot of weight post college

[Anarky]

I was usually around 185 in college, but since I got my job and have had a more sedimentary life style I've ballooned to 200 pounds. My body doesn't look like I've really packed on the weight though. I stand at 6'2 200 pounds... waist size 34-36, 23 years old. I'm technically overweight according to my BMI.

I burnt a lot of calories in college since I walked around so much and was usually doing something. Now I sit at a desk 8 hours out of the day.

So I've begun to drink 64 oz. of water a day and eating breakfast. I've cut out soda and only drink when I'm out with friends.

I think my metabolism is getting slower. I need to start running again, which has been hard to get back into.

Anyone have some good advice what they did when this started to happen to them?

[Imakeholesinu]

I do nothing.

I eat twice a day (Lunch and dinner) mostly chicken now since beef prices are fucking ridiculous and it's BBQ season. I drink water and only have coke with my bacardi or Jack Daniel's.

I too, sit on my ass all day in front of a desk. I'm 6'4" 185lbs.

[Flip]

Im 6'0" and 160... i was up to 180ish until the separation, go figure.

I cant motivate myself to run or lift weights, but i like sports so i do a racquetball league, softball, and am active in the warm months playing volleyball with the guys, hiking, frisbee golf, real golf, etc.

I dont eat much anymore since i have to prep for just myself. I wake up late and just shower, dress, and go to work. I eat lunch with my co workers then usually go home and snack for dinner or eat nothing. One meal a day isnt exactly healthy, but it is was it is at this point.

[Kupek]

Assuming constant calories, more meals will increase your metabolism. I eat four meals a day.

Cardio alone (running) is not the best way to lose fat (not weight; losing muscle mass is bad). Added muscle mass increases your metabolism and makes it easier to lose fat. Also, once we hit about 30, we start losing muscle mass if we don't use it, which is also bad. You can avoid being frail in old age with even basic strength training (onset of a variety of diseases notwithstanding).

So, cardio + strength training + sensible diet is the guaranteed way to get in shape. (Assuming you don't have gland problems, and since you're not massively overweight, you don't.)

With strength training, focus on compound movements: squat, bench, deadlift, clean & press. These are all learned skills, so don't get discouraged if you're using very low weight in the beginning and it feels awkward. A routine as simple as three sets of 10 for three of those lifts every time you go in the gym is a great way to start.

I sit on my ass all day at the office, but I make sure I do strenuous activity several times a week.

[Tessian]

I don't do shit either, unfortunately. I used to do karate after I graduated college but I didn't like the lack of people my age in the class so I stopped going... that was over a year ago.

I'm 5'9" and about 155 yet I still look like a skinny ass. I try to eat healthy, but by healthy I mean I avoid really bad food all together and limit my intake of most just bad food. I too normally sit on my ass all day and I need to change that but I just get too lazy and used to my routine.

Kupek, (or anyone else) what would be the best thing to get/use in your house for strength training? I'm obviously not talking about buying a bowflex or anything huge like that... but even though my apartment complex has a small decent gym I just don't want to go out to train. I was thinking something as simple as buying a set of weights would be enough if I did a normal routine with 'em but I'm not sure. So I guess my end question is assuming you don't want to step foot in a gym, what can you do in the house that would still be effective? I wouldn't mind spending money on some personal equipment either, and probably would prefer it.

[Kupek]

There's lots you can do for strength training without going to a gym. But, consider this: if you can't find the motivation to go to a gym, I doubt you'll have the motivation to stick to a routine.

I strongly encourage going to a gym for the same reason I work at an office and not at home: when you're there, you're in the mindset of getting work done, and there's plenty of resources on hand for that purpose. Some days you might not feel like working out, but you're in a routine, so you go to the gym, and hey, you're already there... might as well work out. It's a lot harder to do that when you work out at home. When you're at a gym, it's also easier to experiment with new exercises, more weight, or more reps.

But to address your question, if you're in an apartment, you're limited to using low weight. Deadlifts and clean & press above 50 lbs. are pretty much out of the question. You can buy a bench, but keep in mind that most of our muscle mass is in our lower body.

So, if you're limiting yourself to at home, I'd get a bar, some plates for the bar, a variety of dumbell sizes, and maybe a kettlebell or two. Using those, you can do low weight, high rep squats, lunges, cleans, and a variety of presses. And don't overlook bodyweight exercises like bodyweight squats, pushups, pullups and dips.

[Don]

I find that if you get together with a few friends and have some kind of contest it helps too so far as motivation goes. Though the current one I'm in that involves walking seems to just encourage people to lie harder about how many miles they did because it's all on your honor. We got some guy in another team who does 50 miles of walking in 4 days, and apparently he's not even close to half the mileage of some of the guy in the teams that are way ahead...

[RentCavalier]

Hell, I'm IN college and I've been gaining weight by spades.

Since I'll be having a kitchen next semester, I'll hopefully be able to regulate my diet and get back into an excercise habit.

Of course, since I've started smoking recently, I imagine that isn't helping my health either...<_<

Out of curiosity, anyone here smoke?

[Kupek]

Quit now. It'll only get harder.

[RentCavalier]

But it feels so good. *sniff*

Funny thing is, I started smoking because all my other friends were and I've been having issues about never fitting in, but now that I start smoking, everyone's contemplating quitting.

Irony is cruel to me.

[Blotus]

I do. It's been about seven years now. I'd certainly like to quit just like that, but there are a couple of circumstances getting in the way of that right now.

The first is that I've started back on a medication that I've been off of for about a year now and neither myself or my doctor think it would be a good idea to try and quit now while the medication is starting to take effect.

The second is that I recently broke four of my teeth. One was pulled, to later have an implant in that space. The other three had pieces pulled from them and were crowned. I had to go back to the dentist yesterday to get one of the crowns ground down because it was too high and since it didn't align with my bite, it was very painful to chew on one side. I think I had also been slightly grinding or gnashing my teeth at night which just caused more pain and as a result, my sleeping patterns have been incredibly erratic. I think I've only slept for four hours in the last two nights and that was in periods of 30 minutes to an hour. Another development: the left side of my lower jaw, where the tooth causing the pain it, has started to swell over the course of today and now feels about the size of half a grape. The pharmacy near here loves me though, since I'm putting all of their kids through college with all the Ibprofun I'm buying.


Uh... anyway, if you've seen commercials about talking to your doctor about a new quitting treatment, that's what I'll be trying. Apparently it's been having an extremely high success rate as it blocks the nicotine receptors in your brain, so the actual act of smoking is rendered ineffective. I'm not sure what the drug is called.

So Rent, if you've just started, you ought to quit. Because if you ever become a heavy smoker, you can look forward to spending a good chunk of your earnings on cigarettes... especially if you were to move to Canada. Currently, a pack here will run you between $8-$12 (for 25) depending on quality. Since the ones I smoke are on average $11.50 and I smoke between half a pack to a pack a day, that's about $250/month or $3000/year. Of course, since you're in America you can cut that in half. Still, if you're going to continue, make sure you're going to be wealthy enough to afford that luxury. Nothing rises in prices like cigarettes (not here anyway).

[bovine]

I want to start smoking so I can later quit..... WITH LASERS!!!

[SineSwiper]

Yeah, I've actually started to look at my diet again, since my weight is 10-15 pounds over what I've ever had in my life, and I'm probably about 50-60 pounds overweight. Have the same situation with work as you guys with the 8-hour desk job.

I've wasted two gym memberships. (First one cost me $500, and yes, I stopped going and wasted an entire year.) Diet pills make me unnaturally speedy, makes me sweat, and doesn't help my IBS. Alli definitely doesn't help my IBS. Diets only work as long as you keep up with them. My bouts with regular walks last as long as my crazy Boston Terrier will walk without nipping neighbors in the nose. (Seriously need some Prozac for that dog...)

Every year or so, I go into this mode, and it never seems to last long. I'm trying to take a slow and moderate approach to it this time. Not really worrying about sticking to everything healthy, but a few things, especially portions.

My problem is just a severe lack of motivation and/or a pre-destiny to failure, despite the potential of fixing health problems (present and future). It's good that some people can keep up with exercise, but not everybody is wired that way.

Heh, at least I've never smoked before, so I guess I have that going for me.

[RentCavalier]

I do. It's been about seven years now. I'd certainly like to quit just like that, but there are a couple of circumstances getting in the way of that right now.

The first is that I've started back on a medication that I've been off of for about a year now and neither myself or my doctor think it would be a good idea to try and quit now while the medication is starting to take effect.

The second is that I recently broke four of my teeth. One was pulled, to later have an implant in that space. The other three had pieces pulled from them and were crowned. I had to go back to the dentist yesterday to get one of the crowns ground down because it was too high and since it didn't align with my bite, it was very painful to chew on one side. I think I had also been slightly grinding or gnashing my teeth at night which just caused more pain and as a result, my sleeping patterns have been incredibly erratic. I think I've only slept for four hours in the last two nights and that was in periods of 30 minutes to an hour. Another development: the left side of my lower jaw, where the tooth causing the pain it, has started to swell over the course of today and now feels about the size of half a grape. The pharmacy near here loves me though, since I'm putting all of their kids through college with all the Ibprofun I'm buying.


Uh... anyway, if you've seen commercials about talking to your doctor about a new quitting treatment, that's what I'll be trying. Apparently it's been having an extremely high success rate as it blocks the nicotine receptors in your brain, so the actual act of smoking is rendered ineffective. I'm not sure what the drug is called.

So Rent, if you've just started, you ought to quit. Because if you ever become a heavy smoker, you can look forward to spending a good chunk of your earnings on cigarettes... especially if you were to move to Canada. Currently, a pack here will run you between $8-$12 (for 25) depending on quality. Since the ones I smoke are on average $11.50 and I smoke between half a pack to a pack a day, that's about $250/month or $3000/year. Of course, since you're in America you can cut that in half. Still, if you're going to continue, make sure you're going to be wealthy enough to afford that luxury. Nothing rises in prices like cigarettes (not here anyway).

Yeesh, that's rough.

I have odd reasons for doing it. One is definitely stress, another is the social aspect, but...hm...

It's hard to explain. I've always been fascinated by smoking. It's that thing you shouldn't ever do, and I'm teh sort of person who always does what he's supposed to. Until I came to college, I never smoke, never drank, hadn't ever touched pot or considered sampling acid.

Now, though, I find myself terribly drawn to all of these things. Smoking was the last thing I've gotten into, and I've found myself strangely enjoying it. I smoke with every intention of quitting before I end college, but it's a weird feeling of satisfaction I get when I do it, like I'm finally doing something purely and selfishly for myself, to hell with the risks.

At the same time, I'm sort of bombarded by people throwing all their indignation at smoking. I can't help but wonder if I'm just trying to do it in order to fit in with other people, and thus am really just being hypocritical.

It's been a really rough semester for me so far. Smoking is the latest of several developments I've been taking to relieve stress, as my work habits have been suffering as a result of 18 credit hours and my first, serious difficulties being away from home.

So...I dunno. It's all a matter of if it matters. I think I have the fortitude to quit after awhile, but I can't ever be sure. My ongoing theory is, unless I start disliking it, I'll likely keep smoking till my friends decide to quit.

But...see what I mean? I'm sort of trapped in a cycle of not knowing whether I want to do it or not, and I do this for every single thing I do, be it drinking, doing other drugs, or just...everything.

I'm a very strange person.

[Lox]

Marriage will make you fat, too. At least in my case. I'm not really fat, though I weigh more than I'd like. I want to drop a lot of the body fat and put more muscle back on that I used to have.

I've just recently started a new workout routine that is pretty intense. It's a mix of cardio and lifting.

[Anarky]

So I dropped 5 pounds the last few weeks. So I think I am getting back on the right track. I've dropped soda from my diet and anything that is unnecessary calories. I bought one of those perfect pushups from target for $40 and its a nice workout for pushups and easier on my joints I've started running again too.

The biggest thing I've been doing is eating throughout the day and eating healthy foods. I have a can of vegetable juice on the way to work in the morning and usually munch on almonds. I get to work and usually make some oatmeal and eat a banana. For lunch I usually try to bring some veggies and sometimes I'll eat a few slices of turkey or a can of tuna. Dinner I've been doing chicken breast and veggies no butter or seasoning. It may sound bland but I actually like these foods. By eating like this and making better choices I've probably cut my caloric intake by quite a bit. Plus I drink 64 oz of water or more a day now.

Now it all just a matter of staying faithful, god knows I miss my mountain dew... but at 170 calories a can fuck that noise.

[Julius Seeker]

Just make sure you get your bite-a-mins.

[Zeus]

Marriage will make you fat, too. At least in my case. I'm not really fat, though I weigh more than I'd like. I want to drop a lot of the body fat and put more muscle back on that I used to have.

I've just recently started a new workout routine that is pretty intense. It's a mix of cardio and lifting.

Long hours and an hour commute each way doesn't exactly do wonders for your waistline either. I'm working on moving my work back home to a company that has sanity in its work culture so that I can actually have time and energy to join city leagues (ball hockey, softball, etc.)

[Anarky]

Just make sure you get your bite-a-mins.

Oh I do. I take a multi-vitamin and fish oil.

[Blotus]

have had a more sedimentary life style

Are you a geologist?

[Sephy]

So I dropped 5 pounds the last few weeks. So I think I am getting back on the right track. I've dropped soda from my diet and anything that is unnecessary calories. I bought one of those perfect pushups from target for $40 and its a nice workout for pushups and easier on my joints I've started running again too.

The biggest thing I've been doing is eating throughout the day and eating healthy foods. I have a can of vegetable juice on the way to work in the morning and usually munch on almonds. I get to work and usually make some oatmeal and eat a banana. For lunch I usually try to bring some veggies and sometimes I'll eat a few slices of turkey or a can of tuna. Dinner I've been doing chicken breast and veggies no butter or seasoning. It may sound bland but I actually like these foods. By eating like this and making better choices I've probably cut my caloric intake by quite a bit. Plus I drink 64 oz of water or more a day now.

Now it all just a matter of staying faithful, god knows I miss my mountain dew... but at 170 calories a can fuck that noise.

Diet Dew is pretty close.

[Chris]

do what I did this week. get really really sick...spend a few days without being able to keep food down for more than a few minutes, a one of em in the hospital and enjoy watching the pounds dissapear.....side effects may include dying, cma, or being put in the hospital.....

[EsquE]

Anyone have some good advice what they did when this started to happen to them?

What did I do? Nothing. And put on a stupid amount of weight. Only started doing something about it last year. Joined a gym, got a trainer. 6 meals a day, high protein, complex carbs, go to the gym 5 days a week for 40 to 60 minutes a day. Mix weight training and cardio (and alter your weight training too between high reps and low weight to low reps and high weight every few months to avoid the plateau) and avoid sugars and simple carbs. At least a gallon of water a day. I shed about 50 lbs in 4 months and still losing. Lowered my BMI about 10 points. Haven't felt this good in a long time.

Just need to find the motivation.

[Anarky]

Anyone have some good advice what they did when this started to happen to them?

What did I do? Nothing. And put on a stupid amount of weight. Only started doing something about it last year. Joined a gym, got a trainer. 6 meals a day, high protein, complex carbs, go to the gym 5 days a week for 40 to 60 minutes a day. Mix weight training and cardio (and alter your weight training too between high reps and low weight to low reps and high weight every few months to avoid the plateau) and avoid sugars and simple carbs. At least a gallon of water a day. I shed about 50 lbs in 4 months and still losing. Lowered my BMI about 10 points. Haven't felt this good in a long time.

Just need to find the motivation.

What do you 6 meals a day look like if you don't mind me asking? And about what time are you eating?

[EsquE]

Anyone have some good advice what they did when this started to happen to them?

What did I do? Nothing. And put on a stupid amount of weight. Only started doing something about it last year. Joined a gym, got a trainer. 6 meals a day, high protein, complex carbs, go to the gym 5 days a week for 40 to 60 minutes a day. Mix weight training and cardio (and alter your weight training too between high reps and low weight to low reps and high weight every few months to avoid the plateau) and avoid sugars and simple carbs. At least a gallon of water a day. I shed about 50 lbs in 4 months and still losing. Lowered my BMI about 10 points. Haven't felt this good in a long time.

Just need to find the motivation.

What do you 6 meals a day look like if you don't mind me asking? And about what time are you eating?

6:30am 2 whole eggs, 5 egg whites, cup of oatmeal

9am Protein drink (whey protein, 2 scoops, approx 50gr protein), yogurt

Noon 1 1/2 chicken breast, 1 cup brown rice, 1 cup broccoli

2:30 Protein drink w/ flaxseed oil

5:30 Steak (or chicken, or 92% lean ground beef, just high protein), sweet potato, salad.

8pm Protein drink w/flaxeed oil

You don't need to eat exactly that, but the protein drinks are important. Try and get a nutrition book that lists exactly what's in each food and you can keep your diet fresh but with the same levels of protein and carbs.

On days you're not lifting weights, cut your carbs. Avoid sugars (that includes fruits).

My diet right now is 288gr protein, 288gr carbs, 168gr fat so about 48, 48, 28 for each meal.

Don't worry about eating too much, just eat good. You're supposed to eat a lot especially if you're weight training. Keeps your metabolism going and you burn more fat without burning the muscle you're adding.

[RentCavalier]

Fuck it all, I'm quitting smoking. I've woken up three mornings in a row having to struggle to breathe and, especially this morning, coughing like a man dying of TB.

It's sad. I like smoking, but my asthma is just far too badly affected by cigarettes to make the trade-off worthwhile. I'll prolly still smoke socially, but I'm done shelling out for my own smokes.

I'll have to find some other pleasure-inducing, addictive substance to abuse instead.

[Kupek]

Try working out.

I'm serious. It's something I selfishly do for me. And, at least for some people, it does give you some happy chemicals: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/healt ... 7best.html

[Zeus]

Try working out.

I'm serious. It's something I selfishly do for me. And, at least for some people, it does give you some happy chemicals: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/healt ... 7best.html

Explains the addiction so many have to working out/exercising

[Kupek]

Not completely, because there are benefits aside from just post-workout chemicals.

Although in the case of regular exercise, I wouldn't consider it an addiction. I think we adapted to be active, and part of that adaptation is that our bodies reward us for doing it. That is, getting a regular dose of happy chemicals from our brain from physical exertion is supposed to be the norm, not the exception.

[kali o.]

Just to throw my personal state into the mix...

I'm somewhere around 30, and over 200lbs. I am definately overweight and out of shape (180 is about right for me, not bulked up). Plus I smoke and live on fastfood. I'm probably a 36 waist...but can still squeeze into my 33's with minimal discomfort .

It's all about lifestyle...I don't need to live in the gym but I do need to be active...and ever since my old man passed away I've been entirely INACTIVE (if I ain't working or travelling, I'm at home).

Like anything else, it requires a strong desire or motivation to change....I'm not quite there yet. But with my metabolism continuing to slow down, I better get there soon, or I'm going to gain so much weight, surgery is the only option (which I might do anyway actually).

[Kupek]

Surgery can't give you muscle mass, which you start losing after 30 if you don't do anything to maintain it.

[kali o.]

Surgery can't give you muscle mass, which you start losing after 30 if you don't do anything to maintain it.

No, but it can't suck out the flab in some places that are tedious to work on (like under the chin which I have at any weight, chest and lovehandles). Losing that could potentially motivate someone to work on their cardio/muscle/tone...and Im definitely short on motivation.

[Kupek]

How about a forum where people can post workouts and progress?

Also, there's no such thing as spot reduction. Our bodies consume fat stores in a predetermined way. The activity you do won't change where you lose fat from.

[SineSwiper]

Try working out.

I'm serious. It's something I selfishly do for me. And, at least for some people, it does give you some happy chemicals: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/healt ... 7best.html

I think that's in a minority of people. Just like there are some people who eat like a pig and stay skinny (without exercise). I think when the general public realizes that exercise means something different for different people, we'd have a better understanding of why people are fat.

[Kupek]

Just like there are some people who eat like a pig and stay skinny (without exercise).

Those people don't exist. We are pretty bad at guessing how many calories we eat. So when someone says "I eat as much as I want and I don't get fat," that means they're actually listening to their body when it says "I'm full."

People who overeat don't listen, or aren't able to recognize when they're full. The problem gets compounded if the person has a low activity level. With a low activity level, you have low caloric needs, which means even an extra 100 calories can make a huge difference. What you eat also makes a difference.

Also: skinny is not the same as being fit. First, even "skinny" people can have significant fat stores inbetween their organs. Second, it's not just about maintaining low weight, but maintaining good physical fitness. It's not a reduced weight that improves quality of life, but improved physical fitness.

It's simple, but hard: be active, don't eat too much, and don't eat crap. For the rest of your life.

[SineSwiper]

Those people don't exist. We are pretty bad at guessing how many calories we eat. So when someone says "I eat as much as I want and I don't get fat," that means they're actually listening to their body when it says "I'm full."

In some cases, though most are just naturally energetic or have high metabolisms. Some cases are extreme enough that they have ADHD/ADD problems. (Ever see a fat ADHD sufferer?)

Also: skinny is not the same as being fit. First, even "skinny" people can have significant fat stores inbetween their organs. Second, it's not just about maintaining low weight, but maintaining good physical fitness. It's not a reduced weight that improves quality of life, but improved physical fitness.

I'm not debating the health benefits of exercise, either, and yes, I know about the fat stores that we don't see external.

It's simple, but hard: be active, don't eat too much, and don't eat crap. For the rest of your life.

See. THAT! That's is what I'm debating. That attitude that anybody can exercise, anybody can be successful and rich, anybody can "find Jesus", anybody can be a rock star if they try hard enough. Just because YOU have had a good experience with it doesn't mean that every human has the same potential to do the same thing. I'm incredibly SICK of that pigeon-holing!

It's that lack of understanding from doctors and the 5-times-a-week gym folks that really is a detriment to the health of this nation. The haves do not understand why the have-nots don't have anything, so they reply to simply "try harder!"

I hate exercise. I don't get "happy chemicals" out of exercise. The only chemicals I get out of it are the pain in my legs from running on a jogging machine. And it doesn't benefit me in any way. Sure, I probably don't try long enough, but it's because after two weeks, I no longer feel motivated to go and voluntarily do something painful for an hour.

And I will continue to not do it until I'm sure that it will be a lifestyle change and not something that I waste two weeks with failure. You would think that my health problems would encourage me to do something about it, but frankly, I'm more concerned with making sure that I don't change pant sizes (upward). It sounds selfish and short-term, but that's real life and human nature.

Right now, I'm just trying to deal with portions and doing things in small steps. Keep at a conscious effort of watching calories and changing food choices. Eventually that may lead to exercise, but it's not going to happen all at once. It may also lead to lap-band surgery.

[Blotus]

Push it to the limit?

[EsquE]

A few things...no, not everyone gets a high from running. Some people don't like running. I hate it, but I do what I can of it because I need to. But I counterbalance that with things I enjoy at the gym.

I love the elliptical machine.

I always bring my MP3 player with music that motivates me.

I love lifting weights, but I also hired a trainer because I knew that doing things incorrectly will be counterproductive and possibly injure me. Form is important. Knowing a wide variety of exercises is important. If you can't afford a trainer, hey, you have the internet. Most of what a trainer will do for you is available for free...minus having someone there pushing you. Workout with a friend if you can.

Find a good gym even if you have to go out of your way. Free weights are important. Home gyms really don't do enough and can get boring. Plus...cute girls in tight gym outfits. Solid motivation right there.

Don't wait...I waited way too long and I regret it. It will sneak up on you and you can do serious damage to your health.

[Blotus]

Jizzfezt 2008

Are you trying to win an award for hottest sig broad again?

[Kupek]

Sine, anybody can get in shape. Our bodies aren't all that different. Mine obeys basically the same rules that yours does. If you did the same things to your body that I do to mine, our results would be about the same. The problems preventing you are significant, I agree. Mainly, you don't know what to do, how to do it, and you're not ready yet to make the lifestyle changes.

Remember, I said it's simple, but I didn't say it's easy. But this is one of those things in life that anybody can do.

Your metabolism is a function of your eating habits and activity level. (Eating X calories over four meals will speed up your metabolism compared to X calories over one meal.)

Find an activity that you think is fun, and do that. Lots of people hate running. What about soccer? Tennis? Enthusiasm trumps dedication almost every time. Find something that's active that you're enthusiastic about.

There was a study a while back comparing two exercise programs: one that was just running, and one that was soccer. The ones playing soccer lost the same amount of fat as the one's running, but they gained muscle mass (the runners gained none), and enjoyed the activity (the runners did not).

If exercise is a chore, then you will put it off like a chore. Your challenge is to find something that you enjoy. Even making an effort to go on evening walks instead of playing videogames is a great first step.

Esque, the article was about strenuous activity in general, not just running.

[EsquE]

Jizzfezt 2008

Are you trying to win an award for hottest sig broad again?

I just like to keep myself entertained while I scroll...plus I'd hate to disappoint Eric.

And goddam, I do so love Lucy Pinder!!

[EsquE]

Esque, the article was about strenuous activity in general, not just running.

Oh....well then I guess what I wrote makes perfect sense.

[SineSwiper]

Esque, not to say that the chick is incredibly hot, but can you tone it down a little? Some people like to surf this place at work.

[Zeus]

Esque, not to say that the chick is incredibly hot, but can you tone it down a little? Some people like to surf this place at work.

My work blocks it out. I can't even see his sig

I'm certain my Laetitia is far better anyways :-)

[EsquE]

Esque, not to say that the chick is incredibly hot, but can you tone it down a little? Some people like to surf this place at work.

I am at work.

[Zeus]

Esque, not to say that the chick is incredibly hot, but can you tone it down a little? Some people like to surf this place at work.

I am at work.

I got the same thing when I had a pic of Laetitia in a bikini. Hence the new avatar

[Anarky]

aren't we all at "work" ?

[kali o.]

Get better jobs....peons.

[Anarky]

Get better jobs....peons.

NO U! I'm a web designer. So me and the internets are like Peanut Butter and Jelly!

[EsquE]

No, seriously, I am usually at work while I'm posting here. So what I'm trying to say is, don't hold me up to a standard I'm already holding myself up to.

And really, you should get in trouble for being on here while you're at work anyway, regardless of content. You're supposed to be working!!