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  • Fans sue EA over football exclusitivity

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #122719  by Imakeholesinu
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:55 pm
Zeus wrote:Claiming anti-trust, which the FCC already looked at, since the 2K games clearly drove down the price

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 7&Itemid=2

I'm interested to see where this goes
It goes no where. When are people going to learn, STOP FEEDING THE TRIAL LAWYERS!!!

 #122727  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:44 pm
Well, actually, it is an interesting argument. When does free market begin and monopolizing a franchise end? Is EA monopolizing the NFL license and preventing competition from potentially selling a better game? What about when TV stations get a hold of a exclusive NFL license to watch TV?

However, this type of exclusive contract is too embedded into our culture to separate now. A judge will likely dismiss it for this reason (though he won't phrase it that way).

 #122731  by Tessian
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:33 pm
Hmmm... interesting debate. What EA did with the NFL basically did create a monopoly, but as Sine said it brings in issues with drawing a line between exclusivity contracts and monopolies. I think I'd almost debate that exclusivity contracts can only be done in certain situations... I mean if Microsoft signed an exclusivity contract with Dell that would be a monopoly and anti-competitive wouldn't it?

I dunno, not a clear cut decision...

 #122741  by Kupek
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:57 pm
Keep in mind that monopolies are not inherently illegal. It's the abuse of a monopoly that's illegal.

 #122743  by Eric
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:10 pm
Like when NFL2k whatever came out and was 19.99 and Madden cut down to 29.99, then NFL2k died and it was back up to 49.99 the following year.

 #122747  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:20 pm
Yeah, I think that would qualify as an abuse of a monopoly.

 #122767  by Zeus
 Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:33 pm
Kupek wrote:Keep in mind that monopolies are not inherently illegal. It's the abuse of a monopoly that's illegal.
These are not exclusive ideas. By nature, a monopoly is abused and is illegal...unless it's a gov't-sponsored one

 #122773  by SineSwiper
 Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:26 pm
Yes, power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

All business follow the same instincts. Monopolies behave in a predictable fashion.

 #122787  by Zeus
 Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:27 am
SineSwiper wrote:Yes, power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

All business follow the same instincts. Monopolies behave in a predictable fashion.
As do ex-monopolies. Ask a Canadian how well they're treated by Rogers' or Bell's CSRs....

 #122788  by Tessian
 Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:44 am
Zeus wrote:
SineSwiper wrote:Yes, power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

All business follow the same instincts. Monopolies behave in a predictable fashion.
As do ex-monopolies. Ask a Canadian how well they're treated by Rogers' or Bell's CSRs....
Hey, my company hires, trains, and manages those CSR's (albeit to Rogers/BC's liking). Just be comforted by the fact that yours truly makes it impossible for those minimally-waged CSR's to surf the web while talking to you ;)

 #122793  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:19 pm
Zeus wrote:As do ex-monopolies. Ask a Canadian how well they're treated by Rogers' or Bell's CSRs....
That's not completely true. Our cable company got smart, got out of the public stock market, and started focusing on customers. Now, we're the one of the best performing cable companies in the US.

 #122807  by Zeus
 Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:35 pm
SineSwiper wrote:
Zeus wrote:As do ex-monopolies. Ask a Canadian how well they're treated by Rogers' or Bell's CSRs....
That's not completely true. Our cable company got smart, got out of the public stock market, and started focusing on customers. Now, we're the one of the best performing cable companies in the US.
Yeah, but you don't have a governmental body prohibiting competition down there. Our FCC-equivalent (CRTC) is a fucking Nazi old-boys club which don't allow no one in. There's a reason these ex-monopolies still think they can act as such