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  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.

 #123623  by Flip
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:31 am
i think i'll just get my CT fix on the SNES in the next month.

Since we talked about it earlier, i've been playing through 7th Saga and am almost ready to beat it again, after that i think i'll fire up CT. SNES RPG's are my favorite, after CT maybe a replay of Mario RPG is in order.

What other SNES RPG's are good? Besides FF2 and 3, i've played those a bazillion times. After 7th Saga, CT, and Mario RPG, i'm not sure i have anything other SNES RPG to play.

EDIT:: In fact, if someone eants to explode this post out as a new topic for best SNES RPG's, that would be great. The decent graphics, relatively simplistic play, and the load speed of cartridges really made the RPG's on the SNES the best RPG era, IMO.

 #123624  by Chris
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:54 pm
Flip wrote:i think i'll just get my CT fix on the SNES in the next month.

Since we talked about it earlier, i've been playing through 7th Saga and am almost ready to beat it again, after that i think i'll fire up CT. SNES RPG's are my favorite, after CT maybe a replay of Mario RPG is in order.

What other SNES RPG's are good? Besides FF2 and 3, i've played those a bazillion times. After 7th Saga, CT, and Mario RPG, i'm not sure i have anything other SNES RPG to play.

EDIT:: In fact, if someone eants to explode this post out as a new topic for best SNES RPG's, that would be great. The decent graphics, relatively simplistic play, and the load speed of cartridges really made the RPG's on the SNES the best RPG era, IMO.
Shit there are so many great ones. Earthbound is pretty much a necessity.

 #123625  by Flip
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:20 pm
Chris wrote:
Flip wrote:i think i'll just get my CT fix on the SNES in the next month.

Since we talked about it earlier, i've been playing through 7th Saga and am almost ready to beat it again, after that i think i'll fire up CT. SNES RPG's are my favorite, after CT maybe a replay of Mario RPG is in order.

What other SNES RPG's are good? Besides FF2 and 3, i've played those a bazillion times. After 7th Saga, CT, and Mario RPG, i'm not sure i have anything other SNES RPG to play.

EDIT:: In fact, if someone eants to explode this post out as a new topic for best SNES RPG's, that would be great. The decent graphics, relatively simplistic play, and the load speed of cartridges really made the RPG's on the SNES the best RPG era, IMO.
Shit there are so many great ones. Earthbound is pretty much a necessity.
Yeah, i cant believe i havnt played that one yet. I'll look on ebay or amazon for a copy.

 #123626  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:27 pm
FF6, Earthbound, and Chrono Trigger are the top RPGs, each with fairly large and loyal fan followings who are still quite vocal today. For action adventure with strong RPG elements, the Soul Blazer trilogy (Soul Blazer, Illusion of Time, and Terranigma).

The next tier of RPGs would include Super Mario RPG, Tales of Phantasia, Lufia 2, and Phantasy Star 4. (Maybe FF4 as well, though the GBA remake gets rid of most the flaws of the original title). EVO, Secret of Mana, Robotrek, ActRaiser, and Secret of Evermore are also RPG-like titles which are also ones to look at.

 #123630  by Zeus
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:39 pm
Flip wrote:
Chris wrote:
Flip wrote:i think i'll just get my CT fix on the SNES in the next month.

Since we talked about it earlier, i've been playing through 7th Saga and am almost ready to beat it again, after that i think i'll fire up CT. SNES RPG's are my favorite, after CT maybe a replay of Mario RPG is in order.

What other SNES RPG's are good? Besides FF2 and 3, i've played those a bazillion times. After 7th Saga, CT, and Mario RPG, i'm not sure i have anything other SNES RPG to play.

EDIT:: In fact, if someone eants to explode this post out as a new topic for best SNES RPG's, that would be great. The decent graphics, relatively simplistic play, and the load speed of cartridges really made the RPG's on the SNES the best RPG era, IMO.
Shit there are so many great ones. Earthbound is pretty much a necessity.
Yeah, i cant believe i havnt played that one yet. I'll look on ebay or amazon for a copy.
Hopefully they'll give us that and Terranigma on the VC.

Breath of Fire 1 and 2 were pretty solid. If you liked 7th Saga, you may wanna try to find Brainlord. It's the other Enix I'm-gonna-make-you-my-bitch hard game. There's also Soul Blazer from Enix and the Lufia games. But none of these would be cheap to get. Illusion of Gaia is another (was somehow related to Terranigma and one other game, can't remember).

There's also others that we never got here, like Secret of Mana 2, Bahamat Lagoon, Terranigma, etc., that you can get in ROM form. And if you like Earthbound, once the Mother 3 translation is done, I can shoot you off a copy of the translated ROM. I've been anxiously waiting for it and the Policenauts ones to be completed. But I still have to find a copy of the PSX ROM for Policenauts

 #123633  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:06 pm
I stole this for OUR website:

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RPGs
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7th Saga
Arcana
Breath of Fire 1
Breath of Fire 2
Chrono Trigger
Dragon View
Drakkhen
Dungeon Master
Earthbound (Mother 2)
Estopolis 1 (Lufia & the Fortress of Doom)
Estopolis 2 (Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals)
E.V.O. Search for Eden
Eye of the Beholder
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Front Mission 1
Illusion of Gaia (Soul Blazer 2) (Illusion of Time)
Illusion of Time (Soul Blazer 2) (Illusion of Gaia)
Inindo: Way of the Ninja
Lufia & the Fortress of Doom (Estopolis 1)
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals (Estopolis 2)
Might & Magic 3: Isles of Terra
Mother 2 (Earthbound)
Paladin's Quest
Robotrek
Romancing Saga 3
Secret of Evermore
Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2)
Secret of the Stars
Seiken Densetsu 2 (Secret of Mana)
Shadowrun
Soul Blazer
Soul Blazer 2 (Illusion of Gaia) (Illusion of Time)
Soul Blazer 3 (Terranigma)
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Terranigma (Soul Blazer 3)
Ultima 6: The False Prophet
Ultima 7: The Black Gate
Ultima: Runes of Virtue 2
Uncharted Waters
Uncharted Waters 2: New Horizons
Wizardry 5: Heart of the Maelstrom

**********
Only Available Through Translated ROMs
**********

7th Saga 2 (Possibly)
Bahamut Lagoon
DBZ: Legend of the Super Saiyan
Dragon Quest 1
Dragon Quest 2
Dragon Quest 5
Dragon Quest 6 (Possibly)
Dual Orb 2
Feda: Emblem of Justice
Final Fantasy 5
Live a Live
Magic Knight RayEarth
Monstania
Rudora no Hihou (Treasure of the Rudras)
Secret of Mana 2 (Seiken Densetsu 3)
Seiken Densetsu 3 (Secret of Mana 2)
Star Ocean
Tales of Phantasia
The Violinist of Hameln
Treasure of the Rudras (Rudora no Hihou)
Villgust
Wonder Project
Ys 4: Mask of the Sun

**********
Debated Genre
**********

Brain Lord
Brandish
Front Mission 2
King Arthur & the Knights of Justice
Lagoon
Ogre Battle
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
The Twisted Tales of Spike McFang
Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys

 #123634  by M'k'n'zy
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:57 pm
Bahamut Lagoon is really good if you are willing to play the translated rom. And add to your translated rom list Shin Megami Tensei I and II, they are both translated and really good games. Games like Persona 3 and Devil Summoner, as well as Digital Devil Saga, are spinoff's of these two.

 #123637  by Zeus
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:32 pm
That's right!. Soul Blazer was the other one related to Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia.

I think I still have the translated Shin Megami Tensei someone here gave me....either Mac or Eric I think. If anyone wants it, let me know and I'll check.

It's kinda sad how many of the US release RPGs Seek listed that I own......

EDIT: Robotrek, that was the other Enix game I couldn't think of!
Last edited by Zeus on Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

 #123643  by RentCavalier
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:53 pm
Aw hell yeah, EVO? I had that fuckin' game on my SNES when I was like...five. My brother was better at it than I 'cause he's more obsessive, but that game was fun times. I played a ROM of it recently and its really, really fucking hard (and a bit repetative, as basically its just "grind until you grow legs, then grind again until you are a Dinosaur) but for an SNES game it offers SO MUCH customization and, if you really put the effort into it, you can really get some kooky results (like evolving into a Mermaid in the water level or becoming a Deer with Sabertooth fangs in the last area). The plot is nonsensical, but kinda fun. There are tons of flaws with gameplay, but it sucks you into it, and if you have a good controller (I.E. not a bloody keyboard) than its really fun to play.

 #123677  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:30 pm
Robotrek is another Quintet title (the team that did the Soul Blazers).

EVO, while the game is quite flawed in many ways those flaws are SO easy to ignore just based on how fun it is. There isn't a game in existence that I have more fun leveling up in... Essentially you evolve by gaining experience and spending them on new bodyparts which function better or differently than previous body parts. The game was a major inspiration for SPORE, Will Wright acknowledged that (he's good about citing his inspiration unlike most other North American developers). I highly enjoy EVO, it is probably my last or second last game I ever played on an actual SNES system (maybe a year or two ago).

And Zeus, don't worry, I am fairly similar when it comes to SNES titles, I have shoeboxes filled with probably 120-130 different SNES and Genesis titles. I have played through almost all of them, a lot of them multiple times over. Next year will be 20 years since the launch of the Genesis, hard to believe.... When this place started up Chrono Trigger was considered an up to date title =P

 #123685  by Don
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:42 am
I played EVO for a bit but it seems like it takes too long to get enough XP to evolve into anything useful.

 #123688  by Lox
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:00 am
I loved EVO. I have been waiting for that to hit the VC. I used to play it all the time in 6th grade.

 #123694  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:12 am
Lox wrote:I loved EVO. I have been waiting for that to hit the VC. I used to play it all the time in 6th grade.
Same here, that one, Dracula's Curse, Earthbound, and Faxanadu are probably my most wanted titles at this point.

 #123697  by Flip
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:04 am
Holy F, Earthbound is considered rare? Even used ones wihout manuals and boxes on Amazon and eBay are going for $70-80+...

 #123698  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:38 am
Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Terranigma weren't exactly rare, but they developed huge fan followings during the 90's and this decade when emulators became popular and the demand for cartridges is much higher than the supply. The one copy of Terranigma available on Ebay is going for $1200.

 #123710  by Zeus
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:35 pm
Dutch wrote:Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Terranigma weren't exactly rare, but they developed huge fan followings during the 90's and this decade when emulators became popular and the demand for cartridges is much higher than the supply. The one copy of Terranigma available on Ebay is going for $1200.
Wasn't Terranigma a Euro-only release?

Earthbound became quite rare after the end of the SNES. They just didn't release that many of them and the game's popularity picked up after the fact. It's up there now with Mega Man X3 in terms of rarity

 #123718  by Flip
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:44 pm
I guess ill suck it up and get one.

 #123719  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:08 pm
Zeus wrote: Wasn't Terranigma a Euro-only release?
Yep, and Chrono Trigger and Earthbound were North America only releases; though either side could play either game using adaptors.

 #123737  by Zeus
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:17 pm
Dutch wrote:
Zeus wrote: Wasn't Terranigma a Euro-only release?
Yep, and Chrono Trigger and Earthbound were North America only releases; though either side could play either game using adaptors.
I hope you mean from non-PAL countries. I have a Jap adaptor for my SNES that'll get past the plastic guards but we're talking about converting video if you try to buy that UK one (BTW, there's a French one for $150)

 #123739  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:05 pm
Zeus wrote:
Dutch wrote:
Zeus wrote: Wasn't Terranigma a Euro-only release?
Yep, and Chrono Trigger and Earthbound were North America only releases; though either side could play either game using adaptors.
I hope you mean from non-PAL countries. I have a Jap adaptor for my SNES that'll get past the plastic guards but we're talking about converting video if you try to buy that UK one (BTW, there's a French one for $150)
I just had my SNES circumcized, and had the plastic tabs removed. That way I didnt need to buy a converter

 #123783  by Zeus
 Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:50 am
M'k'n'zy wrote:
Zeus wrote:
Dutch wrote: Yep, and Chrono Trigger and Earthbound were North America only releases; though either side could play either game using adaptors.
I hope you mean from non-PAL countries. I have a Jap adaptor for my SNES that'll get past the plastic guards but we're talking about converting video if you try to buy that UK one (BTW, there's a French one for $150)
I just had my SNES circumcized, and had the plastic tabs removed. That way I didnt need to buy a converter
Still, we're talking playing a PAL game on an NTSC system and TV. I've never heard of a converter that does that

 #123790  by bovine
 Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:35 am
I had been trying to find out if this whole PAL thing matters with LCD sets that have no refresh rates. I wanted a PAL region sega saturn..... but then I just gave up.

 #123801  by Zeus
 Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:55 am
bovine wrote:I had been trying to find out if this whole PAL thing matters with LCD sets that have no refresh rates. I wanted a PAL region sega saturn..... but then I just gave up.
The main PAL difference is framerate (one other, but I can't remember). Runs at 29.97 frames/sec vs 24 for NTSC. It's a rough conversion 'cause of that, you basically have to cut out frames to convert. There are lots of region-free DVD players that'll do it, although I think they work like a comp.

I'm not really sure the details, but it ain't a simple thing. Although a computer can do it, so there may be a way for certain things, like DVDs, but maybe other physical media, like cartridges, may be more difficult

 #123978  by Chris
 Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:01 pm
man I started playing through again and I forgot just how ridiculously easy the game is right up until you fight the what was it...the golem twins.....fuck me they are a bitch and a half......everything up to that point is simple.....but hit that and KAZAAAM suddely it gives it to you hard in the ass.....I do hope they up the challenge a bit to the game with something.

 #123981  by RentCavalier
 Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:56 pm
Chris wrote:man I started playing through again and I forgot just how ridiculously easy the game is right up until you fight the what was it...the golem twins.....fuck me they are a bitch and a half......everything up to that point is simple.....but hit that and KAZAAAM suddely it gives it to you hard in the ass.....I do hope they up the challenge a bit to the game with something.
Those are the guys you fight in the world of magic, right? They look really small and innocent at first, then they go nuts on you?

Also, respond to yo damn emails.

 #124001  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:25 am
Winning bid: US $405.00

Anyone want to buy a new copy of the original Chrono Trigger? =P

 #124021  by Flip
 Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:48 am
Dutch wrote:Winning bid: US $405.00

Anyone want to buy a new copy of the original Chrono Trigger? =P
Yikes, i have my original one out of the box... but i do have the manual and i can throw in a plastic cartridge cover thing that they stopped making!
 #128388  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:36 am
We're less than a month away now.

An addition that has been revealed: there will be a multiplayer mode involved. Tied to it is a monster collection/evolution game; along with a new location called the Arena of Ages where tournaments and such will be held with monsters. You will be able to take your monster to different areas and different eras to train him/her how you see fit. New and rare items can be acquired through this new game.

 #128412  by Zeus
 Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:25 pm
Flip wrote:
Dutch wrote:Winning bid: US $405.00

Anyone want to buy a new copy of the original Chrono Trigger? =P
Yikes, i have my original one out of the box... but i do have the manual and i can throw in a plastic cartridge cover thing that they stopped making!
I have the inserts and everything.......but they're gonna plummet to under $100 after the DS one comes out

 #128418  by Blotus
 Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:45 am
You know, Zeus, if you had sold your copy of CT for $400 it could have paid for 8 years of Xbox Live.


Hur hur hur.

 #128444  by Zeus
 Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:47 pm
Black Lotus wrote:You know, Zeus, if you had sold your copy of CT for $400 it could have paid for 8 years of Xbox Live.


Hur hur hur.
I'd rather have my copy of CT

 #128457  by SineSwiper
 Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:05 pm
My friend was with this girl, and he got CTDS. He went to a doctor about it, but the doc said that there wasn't a cure for CTDS. Is this true?

-- Joe from Atlanta

 #128459  by Zeus
 Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:10 am
SineSwiper wrote:My friend was with this girl, and he got CTDS. He went to a doctor about it, but the doc said that there wasn't a cure for CTDS. Is this true?

-- Joe from Atlanta
Are you talking about Joe the Plumber? He should stick to his day job :-)

 #129358  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:54 am
It's out =)