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  • StarCraft II Battle Report

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.

 #130362  by Flip
 Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:47 pm
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Awesome! I cant wait.

 #130364  by bovine
 Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:13 pm
looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.

 #130373  by Tessian
 Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:22 pm
bovine wrote:looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.
'tis true, those games did give you less to manage with resources, yet still made them strategically important. I don't think that SC2 does that much more though. It consolidates, but really it's just drones you have to manage/protect that's different.

 #130377  by Zeus
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:00 am
bovine wrote:looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.
If they dared to make radical changes like that, it will be the first time in a century that both North and South Korea become united on a military movement.

 #130390  by SineSwiper
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:22 am
Man, look at how many probes/SCVs they build. That would have been wasteful in SC1.

 #130397  by Flip
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:37 am
bovine wrote:looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.
Dawn of War is pretty kickass, but i never played the multiplayer, was it smooth and balanced? How long would games take?

After watching the video again.... maybe i shouldnt be so excited, SC2 seriously looks like another SC expansion. There arent ANY innovations! Even WC3 had the hero aspect.

 #130414  by bovine
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:24 pm
Flip wrote:
bovine wrote:looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.
Dawn of War is pretty kickass, but i never played the multiplayer, was it smooth and balanced? How long would games take?
there was a constant flow of patches for the original and the first and second expansions to really balance them. So, not counting the latest expansion, it is very well balanced. I used to be able to cruise through the other races as the space marines, but they have since been leveled to be more equal with the others. Or nerfed, or whatever you people call that these days. Matches usually take around 20 minutes if you are both equally matched. If not, then when a clash between forces is won, the winning team can easily swoop in for an easy win. Since it works with a squad mechanic, not individual units, if you have surviving squads, you can easily build them back up as they retreat.

 #130415  by Don
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:31 pm
From looking at the unit list it seems like the new trick this time is elevation, except that probably just means 'stand on the high ground for the win', which was true even in Starcraft 1.

 #130434  by SineSwiper
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:10 pm
Flip wrote:After watching the video again.... maybe i shouldnt be so excited, SC2 seriously looks like another SC expansion. There arent ANY innovations! Even WC3 had the hero aspect.
You actually don't want to change the formula TOO much, as the "innovations" will get overshadowed by the balance issues. We are only seeing an observer gameplay video here, so there is probably a lot more than meets the eye.

 #130437  by Tessian
 Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:28 pm
bovine wrote:
Flip wrote:
bovine wrote:looks cool, but I still hate resource mining. I'll probably buy it..... but I love the innovations that company of heroes and dawn of war brought.
Dawn of War is pretty kickass, but i never played the multiplayer, was it smooth and balanced? How long would games take?
there was a constant flow of patches for the original and the first and second expansions to really balance them. So, not counting the latest expansion, it is very well balanced. I used to be able to cruise through the other races as the space marines, but they have since been leveled to be more equal with the others. Or nerfed, or whatever you people call that these days. Matches usually take around 20 minutes if you are both equally matched. If not, then when a clash between forces is won, the winning team can easily swoop in for an easy win. Since it works with a squad mechanic, not individual units, if you have surviving squads, you can easily build them back up as they retreat.
Shut up about Dawn of War! You're making me wanna play it again :(

I have the Winter Assault and Dark Crusade expansions, never got the latest one. Freakin $30 for a 3rd expansion? Too much IMO. That's why I'm loving Sins of a Solar Empire's $10 expansions-- can't go wrong with that!

 #131521  by bovine
 Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:43 am
Tessian wrote:
bovine wrote:
Flip wrote: Dawn of War is pretty kickass, but i never played the multiplayer, was it smooth and balanced? How long would games take?
there was a constant flow of patches for the original and the first and second expansions to really balance them. So, not counting the latest expansion, it is very well balanced. I used to be able to cruise through the other races as the space marines, but they have since been leveled to be more equal with the others. Or nerfed, or whatever you people call that these days. Matches usually take around 20 minutes if you are both equally matched. If not, then when a clash between forces is won, the winning team can easily swoop in for an easy win. Since it works with a squad mechanic, not individual units, if you have surviving squads, you can easily build them back up as they retreat.
Shut up about Dawn of War! You're making me wanna play it again :(

I have the Winter Assault and Dark Crusade expansions, never got the latest one. Freakin $30 for a 3rd expansion? Too much IMO. That's why I'm loving Sins of a Solar Empire's $10 expansions-- can't go wrong with that!
check out steam, soulstorm just dropped from $30 to $7.50 today. Also, if you buy it you get access to dawn of war 2's multiplayer beta. I already own soulstorm, and it just gave me the beta today.

 #131535  by Tessian
 Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:37 pm
OR you can get in the beta for pre-ordering the game... which I just might do. Better than spending $7.50 on a game I won't play more than once or twice.