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  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #127249  by Anarky
 Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:40 pm
I went out to Pomona last night to see my old roomate and we went to the nearby arcade that had Street Fighter 4.

I only got to play one time sadly since there were a lot of people playing versus and I got my ass handed to me. I must say the game has awesome potential and I wish I could have played the single player to familiarize myself with it. It seems like a very solid fighter.

I was just thinking with my buddy though... Where the hell is Street Fighter 2 HD remix... because if SF4 comes out before it then the game will tank,

 #127258  by Zeus
 Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:55 pm
I don't think SF2TurboHD will be affected too much by SF4. If anything, the release of SF4 may help it

 #131050  by Anarky
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:18 pm
So the Street Fighter 4 MadCatz Tournament Edition Fight Stick.....

The thing got a rave review on Kotaku and I want a good fighting stick... but $150 is hard to justify....

I may just bite the bullet and get one

http://kotaku.com/5128016/ces-09-hands- ... ent-sticks
 #131052  by bovine
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:31 pm
Anarky wrote:Where the hell is Street Fighter 2 HD remix...
are you asking if it's out? Because it's out. Also, it's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix, SSF2THDR for short.

 #131053  by Blotus
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:31 pm
I might also. I'll wait and see. If this has a good d-pad, I might just order it instead.

 #131055  by Zeus
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:00 pm
Blotus wrote:I might also. I'll wait and see. If this has a good d-pad, I might just order it instead.
When they released the PS2 and Xbox ones, I ended up getting one at full price but then EB dropped them to like $15 and I picked all of them up. I think it will happen again so I'm gonna wait out the pads.

But the stick I want. I got the last one they released for the SF Collection, the monstrosity that is essentially a portable piece of an arcade cabinet. If that stick is anything like it they're awesome. Just fucking expensive

 #131058  by Andrew, Killer Bee
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:29 pm
Fuck, I wish I could afford the TE stick. So good. I'll settle for the pad, though.
 #131061  by Anarky
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:28 pm
bovine wrote:
Anarky wrote:Where the hell is Street Fighter 2 HD remix...
are you asking if it's out? Because it's out. Also, it's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix, SSF2THDR for short.
This is an old post from September, I just revived it
 #131064  by bovine
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:34 pm
Anarky wrote:
bovine wrote:
Anarky wrote:Where the hell is Street Fighter 2 HD remix...
are you asking if it's out? Because it's out. Also, it's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix, SSF2THDR for short.
This is an old post from September, I just revived it
so it is.

HIGH FIVE!
 #131068  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:46 pm
bovine wrote:
Anarky wrote:Where the hell is Street Fighter 2 HD remix...
are you asking if it's out? Because it's out. Also, it's Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix, SSF2THDR for short.
This is also another example of How NOT to Create 360 Arcade Demos. The demo forces you to play 2-player, which you may or may not have at the time you're evaluating it.

 #131083  by Anarky
 Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:04 pm
Well just preordered one off Gamestops website. I would have done Amazon since I have prime but they didn't have it for preorder.


Though I did get free shipping from Gamestop using the word "Saver" in the promo box.

 #131118  by Anarky
 Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:23 pm
Stick is no longer available at Gamestops website, glad I pre-ordered now

 #131121  by Eric
 Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:58 pm
You people and your arcade sticks, give me a nice solid D-Pad and I'm good to go.

 #131125  by Zeus
 Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:54 pm
Eric wrote:You people and your arcade sticks, give me a nice solid D-Pad and I'm good to go.
There ain't nothin' like playin' a fighter with an arcade stick

 #131136  by Blotus
 Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:22 am
Amazon.ca doesn't even have Street Fighter 4 on their site, let alone any of the Mad Catz accessories.

EBGames.ca doesn't have online ordering! LOL!

Not saying I was actually going to order from either of these sites but if I wanted to, I could not.

 #131150  by Flip
 Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:56 am
Blotus wrote:Amazon.ca doesn't even have Street Fighter 4 on their site, let alone any of the Mad Catz accessories.

EBGames.ca doesn't have online ordering! LOL!

Not saying I was actually going to order from either of these sites but if I wanted to, I could not.
Crazy 3rd world countries.

 #131157  by Oracle
 Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:20 pm
Eric wrote:You people and your arcade sticks, give me a nice solid D-Pad and I'm good to go.
If I had a PS3, I could agree somewhat. The 360 controller, however, is fucking TERRIBLE for fighting games.

I think I'll have to pick up the mad catz arcade stick. Either that or I'll make my own again like I did for the PS2.... maybe I should just rewire that one to a 360 controller....

 #131161  by Anarky
 Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:47 pm
Oracle wrote:
Eric wrote:You people and your arcade sticks, give me a nice solid D-Pad and I'm good to go.
If I had a PS3, I could agree somewhat. The 360 controller, however, is fucking TERRIBLE for fighting games.

I think I'll have to pick up the mad catz arcade stick. Either that or I'll make my own again like I did for the PS2.... maybe I should just rewire that one to a 360 controller....
The 360 controller is so horrible for Street Fight 2 HD remix I realized after playing it that an Arcade Stick was a must.

 #131163  by Eric
 Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:36 pm
Oracle wrote:
Eric wrote:You people and your arcade sticks, give me a nice solid D-Pad and I'm good to go.
If I had a PS3, I could agree somewhat. The 360 controller, however, is fucking TERRIBLE for fighting games.

I think I'll have to pick up the mad catz arcade stick. Either that or I'll make my own again like I did for the PS2.... maybe I should just rewire that one to a 360 controller....
I agree about the 360 controller I went and got SF2HD for the PS3 heh.

 #131810  by bovine
 Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:22 pm
I had a really hard time figuring out what system I was going to get this for. I wanted to excellent controls that come with using the ps3's dpad, but if most of you are going to get it for the 360, then who am I going to play it with? Well, I finally broke down and preordered it (along with killzone 2, hopefully it will be as good as the first one, har har) for the 360.... I hope I can get my hands on a nice arcade stick.

 #131846  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:33 pm
Fuck that...where's Bionic Commando?

 #132362  by Anarky
 Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:16 pm
Apparently I got my joystick early!

Image

 #132365  by Anarky
 Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:53 pm
Image[/img]

 #132366  by bovine
 Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:59 pm
I do not like either of these posts, as it fills me with a level of jealousy that I would rather not see come up again in the near future. Perhaps you would trade your excellent stick of joy for a word or two of compliments? "you're looking high of spirits today" or "Those are some well made trousers you find yourself inside of" would be some enticing examples of the compliments you may be in store for.

 #132367  by Blotus
 Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:46 pm
A Madcatz stick in Canada you cannot get. Balls, balls, balls.

So... thinkin the netcode in SF4 is going to be garbage compared to HD Remix. They're not using GGPO which is a huge mistake.

 #132368  by Eric
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:39 am
Blotus wrote:A Madcatz stick in Canada you cannot get. Balls, balls, balls.

So... thinkin the netcode in SF4 is going to be garbage compared to HD Remix. They're not using GGPO which is a huge mistake.
Seriously? Wtf, why mess with near-perfection?

 #132372  by Andrew, Killer Bee
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:11 am
Anarky wrote:ballin' stick pics
Fuuuuuuuck

 #132375  by Blotus
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:36 am
Eric wrote:Seriously? Wtf, why mess with near-perfection?
I don't know why, but I'm expecting a really disappointing online experience if the online is handled strictly by Capcom Japan. Nearly everybody in Japan plays locally or in arcades -- who in Japan is really going to care if SF4 doesn't have excellent online.

 #132385  by SineSwiper
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:09 am
No, seriously, where the fuck is Bionic Commando?

 #132391  by Mental
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:45 am
I personally am waiting for Jin Kazama and Eddy Gordo to come in and kick the living shit out of every single letter in this thread. :)

Down with SF! King of the Iron Fist Forever!

 #132392  by Zeus
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:04 am
Anarky wrote:Image[/img]
Promise me one thing: if you ever want to sell that arcade stick, give me the option of purchasing it.

And keep the box for it.

 #132393  by Zeus
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:06 am
SineSwiper wrote:No, seriously, where the fuck is Bionic Commando?
Moved to March or April.

Just download the one for XBLA. There's only a slim chance the 3D one ain't gonna suck, regardless of how much Grin are fans of the game (as they proved with the remake)

 #132397  by Eric
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:13 am
Blotus wrote:
Eric wrote:Seriously? Wtf, why mess with near-perfection?
I don't know why, but I'm expecting a really disappointing online experience if the online is handled strictly by Capcom Japan. Nearly everybody in Japan plays locally or in arcades -- who in Japan is really going to care if SF4 doesn't have excellent online.
Pretty much my thoughts.

"Let's leave online play to Japan, YEAH that'll work out."

 #132399  by Kupek
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:41 am
SFIIHD and SF4 probably have completely different development teams, so if the netcodes are different, it's not a change; they didn't "mess with" what works.

 #132400  by Blotus
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:01 pm
Kupek wrote:SFIIHD and SF4 probably have completely different development teams, so if the netcodes are different, it's not a change; they didn't "mess with" what works.
Quit playing Devil's advocate. They are by different teams, the netcode is different -- the point is that somebody at Capcom didn't acknowledge a superior system of online play and implement it in one of their flagship titles. I know that this is all speculation at this point, but I've got a strong feeling that the online in SF4 will be second-rate at best because Capcom failed to utilize GGPO, even after seeing how well it handled online HD Remix matches.

 #132403  by Kupek
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:32 pm
I'm not playing devil's advocate, I just understand how much inertia there is in large software projects. Even if another library is obviously better than what's being used, if what's being used works, the resistance to changing it will be huge.

 #132404  by Eric
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:33 pm
Blotus wrote:the point is that somebody at Capcom didn't acknowledge a superior system of online play and implement it in one of their flagship titles.
And that would be the Japanese branch, coincidentally they also didn't release SF2HDRemix in Japan either because they thought they'd lose money by even bothering to release such an online heavy game over there.

 #132405  by bovine
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:38 pm
Eric wrote:
Blotus wrote:the point is that somebody at Capcom didn't acknowledge a superior system of online play and implement it in one of their flagship titles.
And that would be the Japanese branch, coincidentally they also didn't release SF2HDRemix in Japan either because they thought they'd lose money by even bothering to release such an online heavy game over there.
how much money does it cost to put a game up for digital distribution?

 #132407  by Kupek
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:44 pm
Platform licensing fees - although I'm curious how much it actually costs. In the US, there's also ESRB.

 #132408  by Blotus
 Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:45 pm
Kupek wrote:I'm not playing devil's advocate, I just understand how much inertia there is in large software projects. Even if another library is obviously better than what's being used, if what's being used works, the resistance to changing it will be huge.
To say online fighting games "work" is a debate in itself.

 #132443  by SineSwiper
 Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:53 am
Replay wrote:I personally am waiting for Jin Kazama and Eddy Gordo to come in and kick the living shit out of every single letter in this thread. :)

Down with SF! King of the Iron Fist Forever!
Grandpa says HALF THE BAR!

 #132444  by SineSwiper
 Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:54 am
Blotus wrote:To say online fighting games "work" is a debate in itself.
It doesn't. It never will.

 #132658  by Chris
 Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:48 pm
I don't like Street fighter.....I LOVE SF4! it's almost as good as third strike

 #132688  by Zeus
 Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:32 am
BTW, us Canadians can now order the arcade stick at EB Games. MSRP = $189.99...ouch

 #132758  by bovine
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:51 pm
so, what did everyone get it for? I got it for the 360, as most people here, I believe, will have done the same.

 #132760  by Mental
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:57 pm
I'm guessing I'll probably miss out on the excitement.

Never been the biggest SF fan, I'll probably wait for Tekken 6...

 #132767  by Blotus
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:03 pm
360 as well. The EB's here will NOT order a stick or pad for you because they have no idea how many they're getting. Whatever they've got coming in is all spoken for as well.

So unless some online retailer starts shipping sticks or pads to Canada, I'm stuck playing this on my shitty 360 pad.

 #132768  by Chris
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:11 pm
Blotus wrote:360 as well. The EB's here will NOT order a stick or pad for you because they have no idea how many they're getting. Whatever they've got coming in is all spoken for as well.

So unless some online retailer starts shipping sticks or pads to Canada, I'm stuck playing this on my shitty 360 pad.
the SF controller is all kinds of awesome.

 #132769  by Blotus
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:28 pm
Go fuck yourself!

 #132770  by Zeus
 Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:55 pm
Blotus wrote:360 as well. The EB's here will NOT order a stick or pad for you because they have no idea how many they're getting. Whatever they've got coming in is all spoken for as well.

So unless some online retailer starts shipping sticks or pads to Canada, I'm stuck playing this on my shitty 360 pad.
They just changed that last Friday. They weren't accepting any pre-orders before then but now they are. I don't know if anything has changed again between now and then but I have put my $30 on it. Still not sure if I'm gonna pay $189+tax for the damned thing, though. That's like buying a PSP for cryin' out loud.

And I'm getting mine for the 360 due to the lack of a PS3. Should be pickin' it up tonight