There are a bunch of jobs opening up here at UPS including...

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>a development position working with PDA/desktop applications. I'm going to go for that one and see if I can get the job. I am currently assigned to work with the woman who is going to be in charge and she loves me. The apps on the desktop and PDA are currently running with VB, but they are trying to begin a port to VB .Net for the desktop and C# for the PDA. That'd be such an awesome job. I'm hoping it works out. I told the woman in charge that I was interested.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>s she hot?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If so, good luck my man!</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>that does sound interesting, glad to see you like your job and company and that you have good opportunities there. I truly am happy for you :)</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>She loves Lox...I think that answers your question</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>She's lonely and fat.</div>

[Imakeholesinu]

<div style='font: 10pt Impact; text-align: left; '>What's Lydia going to think about that? You told another woman that you were interested. :)</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, she's like 60. haha, so to answer your question, only if I were Ish.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Oh, Lydia has nothing to worry about. I'm using this one only for career positioning. ;)</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>...in China!

Seems the cost of one developer here can net you 5 or 6 very good ones over there. We're still a small startup, so they can't really get rid of any developers here...yet. I'll have to play my cards right and position myself up the ladder...

Zhuge Liang</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>NOOOOOO! Not there too! "Herro, may I herp you? What you say? Launch all Zig!"</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Speaking of positioning, what sort of position would you like to see Lydia in?</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Hey, you got hired! How long you been working there?</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Please tell me she has no teeth. Oooh, that's so hot...</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Oh, and I hate to hear the outsourcing trend is starting to smack you guys around too. The jury is still out on whether it's actually effective or not...</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>though I started back as part time for a few months.(it's the same company that laid me off). For a while I was working a two development jobs (one full time, on part time, but one was only contract). I switched back to full time at this job and dropped the contract job last March.

In the near future, developers here should not be affected. But if I am to remain unscathed, I would have to take on more of a design and architecture role, along with project management, which I'm already doing. I guess the idea is that we'd be the think tank, and China would do most of the grunt work.

As far as the effectiveness of outsourcing, at the development level, it's rather gray. The upper-ups only see the 6 to 1 ratio in personnel costs, not how the overhead will affect the quality of the work.

Zhuge Liang</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>There are a few chinese contractors where I work, but a majority of the people on my floor are indian (at least 65%) and are mainly contractors "fresh off the boat" from India. (I myself am an employee)</div>

[Imakeholesinu]

<div style='font: 10pt Impact; text-align: left; '>Back of a Volkswagon? :)</div>