Wolverine: Origins

[RentCavalier]

Quite awesome. A little silly at times, a little funny at times, a little sad at times, a little WTF at times, and awesome all the time. Exactly the kind of movie you'd want this to be. It's essentially a Marvel comic on the screen--the writing and pacing is ripped directly from the Marvel playbook.

Go see it, and then start bitching about Deadpool like everybody else.

Also Emma Frost is hot.

[Lox]

A couple friends of mine saw it and said the best part was the Transformers trailer. So, needless to say, I'm waiting for DVD.

[Chris]

Saying it was fucking terrible would be going to far. it's like The Spirit. It's bad. but it's not funny bad. it's just bad....

[SineSwiper]

Next, Rent reviews the DBZ movie.

[Chris]

Next, Rent reviews the DBZ movie.

best movie ever. I cried....

[Zeus]

Is it any different from the workprint version?

[Lox]

Is it any different from the workprint version?

Nope. According to one of the guys from ain't it cool, the bootleg and the theatrical release are identical except for the missing CGI.

[Chris]

this is wierd. the game based on the comic movie is better than the movie. Punisher is a sissy when it comes to killing....

[RentCavalier]

Woah, you guys are weird. What was wrong with the movie, per se? The action was fine, the story was (Marvel) good, and Hugh Jackman basically IS Wolverine.

[Julius Seeker]

I'm going to give it a shot today or tomorrow. Often I don't agree with comic fans on Comic book movies. For example, I didn't see any real difference in quality between X-Men 3 and the previous 2 X-Men movies; but comic fans hated the third one and liked the first two. I actually found the third more eventful, plus they put the Juggernaut bitch line in.

[Eric]

I'm going to give it a shot today or tomorrow. Often I don't agree with comic fans on Comic book movies. For example, I didn't see any real difference in quality between X-Men 3 and the previous 2 X-Men movies; but comic fans hated the third one and liked the first two. I actually found the third more eventful, plus they put the Juggernaut bitch line in.

You didn't see anything wrong with them killing Professor X, Scott, and Jean, and the random "lol Phoenix" subplot.

[Julius Seeker]

I'm going to give it a shot today or tomorrow. Often I don't agree with comic fans on Comic book movies. For example, I didn't see any real difference in quality between X-Men 3 and the previous 2 X-Men movies; but comic fans hated the third one and liked the first two. I actually found the third more eventful, plus they put the Juggernaut bitch line in.

You didn't see anything wrong with them killing Professor X, Scott, and Jean, and the random "lol Phoenix" subplot.

People die all the time in movies.

[SineSwiper]

this is wierd. the game based on the comic movie is better than the movie. Punisher is a sissy when it comes to killing....

Of course, this is coming from the guy who thought that Punisher: War Zone, a movie that got 26% on the Tomatometer, was the greatest film ever.

You didn't see anything wrong with them killing Professor X, Scott, and Jean, and the random "lol Phoenix" subplot.

People die all the time in movies.

That's about the dumbest excuse to ignore flaws in a movie I have ever seen in my life.

[Chris]

this is wierd. the game based on the comic movie is better than the movie. Punisher is a sissy when it comes to killing....

Of course, this is coming from the guy who thought that Punisher: War Zone, a movie that got 26% on the Tomatometer, was the greatest film ever.

You didn't see anything wrong with them killing Professor X, Scott, and Jean, and the random "lol Phoenix" subplot.

People die all the time in movies.

That's about the dumbest excuse to ignore flaws in a movie I have ever seen in my life.

Punishe War Zone was a great fucking punisher movie. Why? because it WAS the Punisher. He punished. it's what the character is. a machine that just flat out murders everything that commits a crime. Plus, it had an explosive parkour segment.

[RentCavalier]

So, why isn't Wolverine a good movie? It has Wolverine. He sticks his claws into things. By your logic, it's awesome.

[SineSwiper]

Yeah, I'm confused by this logic, too. Either both movies suck, or both movies are awesome.

[Julius Seeker]

this is wierd. the game based on the comic movie is better than the movie. Punisher is a sissy when it comes to killing....

Of course, this is coming from the guy who thought that Punisher: War Zone, a movie that got 26% on the Tomatometer, was the greatest film ever.

You didn't see anything wrong with them killing Professor X, Scott, and Jean, and the random "lol Phoenix" subplot.

People die all the time in movies.

That's about the dumbest excuse to ignore flaws in a movie I have ever seen in my life.

It is not a flaw, it is a part of the movie's story.

[Chris]

So, why isn't Wolverine a good movie? It has Wolverine. He sticks his claws into things. By your logic, it's awesome.

no. the wolverine game has wolverine who sticks his claws into things. The wlverine movie like X3 before it just tries way to hard and trips and falls on it's face. Not to mention Deadpool which was idiotic. There was one part of the movie that I likes. ok, 2 things. Ryan Reynolds before they took the awesomeness of deadpool and skullfucked it into an unrecognizable piece of shit plot device and the extra scene with deadpool after the movie which was.....hey look....why couldn't you have done that in the movie....that's fucking deadpool. Other than that it was shit. Stryker was one of the worst acting jobs I've seen, Sabretooth was....ok.....but overall it was really just not a good movie.

[SineSwiper]

From one of the reviews for P:WZ: "The IQ is as low as the body count is high and the uncharismatic Ray Stevenson might as well have been wearing a mask for all the emotion he shows."

[Chris]

From one of the reviews for P:WZ: "The IQ is as low as the body count is high and the uncharismatic Ray Stevenson might as well have been wearing a mask for all the emotion he shows."

HE'S THE FUCKING PUNISHER. The punisher is a robot. He scowls and shoots people in the face and swears a lot. That's what the punisher freaking is. Scowl, Shoot, Growl, Threaten then follow through, kill kill kill. he's the punisher. He's a grindhouse flick in comic book form. PWZ is a grindhouse flick in grindhouse form. That review pretty much described what a punisher movie should be. he has never had and probably will never have much of a personality than beint a robotic killing machine

[SineSwiper]

Then that doesn't really make for a good movie.

[Chris]

Then that doesn't really make for a good movie.

it made for a fucking entertaining one. I got exactly what I wanted out of it. An over the top overly violent action gunplay movie..

[bovine]

I didn't really like punisher: warzone. The action was passable, but the rest of the movie was awful. Although, it was easily the best punisher movie.

[RentCavalier]

I actually liked the Deadpool skull-fuckery. I wasn't pleased with it at first, but we did GET the little taste of Deadpool people wanted, which was almost good enough.

Sabretooth was awesome, I dunno what you are talking about. He's a big scary tiger man. He accomplishes that AND has some emotion too. Better than the fucking Eighties-Hair victim of the first X-Men movie.

Stryker was an asshole general. He was portrayed as an asshole general. I don't see what was wrong with him.

You say that the movie sucks, but you don't really say WHY. Why does Wolverine fail? He's just starting out as a mutant, and he's not a cold-blooded killer like Sabretooth. You get plenty of scenes where Wolverine tears the shit out of shit, and while it isn't filled with gore and bloodshed, it doesn't really need to be.

I won't say it's without flaws. All the close-ups of Wolverine howling are pretty silly, and the fights between him and Sabretooth get downright repetetive.

However, you know what? All the uber comic-book nerds were giving this movie shit since it was first announced. It has had an uphill battle to try and get made and make money. So, you know what? I have a theory as to why they fucked over Deadpool. They did it to give all those super-nerds who obsess over every tiny little inconsistency and whined and flamed and generally made assholes of themselves over this movie a great big, class-A, "FUCK YOU".

And it WORKS. Yeah, he's not the merc with the mouth. They take that away from him, and it's a fucking slap to the face, and it's BRILLIANT. It makes for a stellar fight scene, some great camera work and special effects, and a terrifically brought together climax.

Stop fucking whining. Wolverine is a solid movie, and if you are going to say it is shit, you might as well back up what you say with more than comic wankery.

[Flip]

Who the F is Deadpool? I know enough about X-men to enjoy the movies and recognize the famous characters, but not lame side ones that have stupid names. I couldnt care less what they did to him.

Hardcore fans are NEVER going to like everything the studio does.

[Lox]

Well, I haven't actually seen Wolverine myself, so I won't comment on it too much. I did read a plot synopsis though so that's what I'm basing anything from.

You can please hardcore fans and still make a good comic movie. In fact, I think the ones that stick to the tried and true stories tend to be better overall. Look at Iron Man and the new Hulk. Look at Batman Begins and TDK. I just watched Xmen 2 over the weekend and, imo, it just isn't as good as I remember since I've seen the more recent comic movies now.

No, you'll never please hardcore comic fans 100%, but you can do a better job than this. And the utter disregard for the source material in the movie is what bothers me the most. There were a million ways they could run the Wolverine origin story while using the comics as source and instead they stuck a bunch of cameo Marvel characters in there as filler.

Also, be careful, Flip. You sounded an awful lot like Seeker with the "...not lame side ones that have stupid names" comment. That just struck me as something he would say.

[Flip]

Also, be careful, Flip. You sounded an awful lot like Seeker with the....

AAAHHhh!! I take it back!

[Lox]

Also, be careful, Flip. You sounded an awful lot like Seeker with the....

AAAHHhh!! I take it back!

Haha...I figured you'd jump at that. Just looking after ya, man.

[SineSwiper]

Who the F is Deadpool? I know enough about X-men to enjoy the movies and recognize the famous characters, but not lame side ones that have stupid names. I couldnt care less what they did to him.

Hardcore fans are NEVER going to like everything the studio does.

This is Deadpool. Think of him as the Lobo of the Marvel universe.

[Flip]

Who the F is Deadpool? I know enough about X-men to enjoy the movies and recognize the famous characters, but not lame side ones that have stupid names. I couldnt care less what they did to him.

Hardcore fans are NEVER going to like everything the studio does.

This is Deadpool. Think of him as the Lobo of the Marvel universe.

Rebbecca Lobo? Whats going on here? How can i be so nerdy and not know this stuff?

[Chris]

Who the F is Deadpool? I know enough about X-men to enjoy the movies and recognize the famous characters, but not lame side ones that have stupid names. I couldnt care less what they did to him.

Hardcore fans are NEVER going to like everything the studio does.

This is Deadpool. Think of him as the Lobo of the Marvel universe.

No, he's the 4chan of the comic book universe. He's a character who is so utterly insane that he actually thinks he is a comic book character...And I can't fucking wait for the Deadpool movie as Ryan Reynolds like in Blade 3 was the absolute best thing about the movie. Then they made him not Ryan and it sucked....so bring ryan and make it the merc with the mouth

[Zeus]

Who the F is Deadpool? I know enough about X-men to enjoy the movies and recognize the famous characters, but not lame side ones that have stupid names. I couldnt care less what they did to him.

Hardcore fans are NEVER going to like everything the studio does.

This is Deadpool. Think of him as the Lobo of the Marvel universe.

No, he's the 4chan of the comic book universe. He's a character who is so utterly insane that he actually thinks he is a comic book character...And I can't fucking wait for the Deadpool movie as Ryan Reynolds like in Blade 3 was the absolute best thing about the movie. Then they made him not Ryan and it sucked....so bring ryan and make it the merc with the mouth

Saying Ryan Reynolds was the best thing about Blade 3 isn't a compliment in any way.

Besides, the best thing about Blade 3 was looking at Beil's ass and even that was very little.

[Chris]

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[Mully]

Go see it, and then start bitching about Deadpool like everybody else.

I think people are confusing Deadpool with Weapon XI at the end fight. Deadpool was in the movie as much as Gambit was in the movie...about 5 minutes of total screen time.

[Chris]

Go see it, and then start bitching about Deadpool like everybody else.

I think people are confusing Deadpool with Weapon XI at the end fight. Deadpool was in the movie as much as Gambit was in the movie...about 5 minutes of total screen time.

that's not my problem with the movie. what's my problem with the movie....well let's see.....

We're going to take this adamantium bullet and shoot him in the head which will cause him to forget everything....

um.....what?

The leaps in any form of logic in so many aspects of the movie were stratched so far that even I couldn't get past some of the idiotic crap they threw out there. I mean really. adamantium bullet amnesia? I'll believe that superman can kill darkseid after batman shoots him with a time travelling god killing bullet by singing him to death and using a miracle machine to wish for a happy ending before I can sit down and take any of the logic in this movie seriously. It's just flabberghasttastic. Ok, Baraka....I mean Deadpool/Weapon XI has magic arm blades that are as long as his arms. ok um how does that work exactly? It's that kind of idiotic crap that made me hate this movie.

THe whole siver sox we kidnapped your sister so go get him to join this willingly over 6 years blah blah blahbity blah crap. Almost every main plotline was idiocy. Which makes it all the worse that wolverine and sabretooth did there damndest to save it as they had the only 2 performances that weren't comepletely inane or lackluster.

by the way...I'm still totally fucking excited though for the Deadpool movie. That....That will kick ass.

[Kupek]

Weapon XI at the end was Deadpool, but not, which I think irritated fans. Deadpool in the comics was a product of Weapon X, did get the healing factor, although he didn't have the retractable swords, teleportation, or Cyclops-style eye lasers.

Peronsally, I saw the movie and had fun. It's not a good movie, but it's entertaining. After X-Men 3, which wasn't even really all that entertaining, that's all was looking for.

The beginning sequence was easily the best part of the movie, though. And I thought Liev Schreiber did a surprisingly good job as Sabretooth.

[Zeus]

They did take quite a bit of liberities with the end of the flick, that's for sure

[Kupek]

Frankly, the comics take quite a bit of liberty with themselves. When you have characters written by hundreds (thousands?) of writers over decades, they end up being retconned like crazy.

[Chris]

Frankly, the comics take quite a bit of liberty with themselves. When you have characters written by hundreds (thousands?) of writers over decades, they end up being retconned like crazy.

yep. it's why I can take movies being different than the comic. It's not the story being exact that I care about. it's the spirit of it.

[Zeus]

Frankly, the comics take quite a bit of liberty with themselves. When you have characters written by hundreds (thousands?) of writers over decades, they end up being retconned like crazy.

yep. it's why I can take movies being different than the comic. It's not the story being exact that I care about. it's the spirit of it.

Yeah, it's whether or not they care about the source material. You can really tell when they do or don't

[Chris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxfTPOpXh_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1R5PhReY5k

[Zeus]

Those were pretty good

[Shrinweck]

After X-Men 3, which wasn't even really all that entertaining, that's all was looking for.

Wow that must be the kindest accurate review for that movie that I've ever seen.