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Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #138957  by Mental
 Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:11 am
http://www.time.com/time/business/artic ... 56,00.html
Giant-King Sean Gregory wrote:"Happiness is just one more thing that taller people have going for them," says Angus Deaton, a Princeton economist and co-author of the study, who stands a smug 6 ft. 4 in. (Full disclosure: I, too, am about 6 ft. 4 in., but I will refrain from mocking shrimps in this story.)
My Facebook Response wrote:No, you won't. You just didn't. You already failed to refrain from mocking all of us poor vertically challenged krill. Pity but what my protestations emerge so close to the ground, too easily absorbed by the Earth to penetrate the aristocratic atmosphere at six feet or higher.

 #138958  by SineSwiper
 Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:00 am
I'm content with my shortness (5'5"), but I can understand why shortness would cause more depressed individuals. It's just another social status thing, like class, race, sex, etc. I'm sure you could do one on blond women.

 #138961  by Zeus
 Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:07 pm
For you shorter people out there (I'm 6'2" myself), you have one thing over us: the world is built for you not us. You're more comfortable when travelling, have a far easier time buying clothing and shoes, and can buy or be a passenger in any car. It's much more difficult for us tall ones (if you're fat, it's even worse).

 #138963  by Mental
 Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:31 pm
I just think the whole tone of the article is snarky and crappy towards us krill, as I put it. I don't mind that people want to discuss height, that's all good. But it matters whether or not there's respect in the discussion.

"Shrimps" != respect. If I went up to the guy who wrote the article and went "Hey, Lurch! Hey, can you wear this antenna hat? I want to see if I can get the Dodger game over here," chances are that it would piss him off, no matter what he thought about tall or short or whatnot getting more money/women/power/whatever. That's not a meaningful discussion about height. The article has elements of meaningful discussion about height, but they are polluted by the tone, and the final sentiment "pity but what you can't all grow higher and be happier". "Pity you're not as tall as me and as likely to experience the good things in life as a result." That isn't a meaningful discussion, it's a put-down, and the notion that short people have a "chip on their shoulders" about height has a lot to do with the fact that some of these "discussions" are put-downs and condescension masquerading as scientific thrust and then we have to hear about it.

 #138964  by Mental
 Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:43 pm
Zeus wrote:For you shorter people out there (I'm 6'2" myself), you have one thing over us: the world is built for you not us. You're more comfortable when travelling, have a far easier time buying clothing and shoes, and can buy or be a passenger in any car. It's much more difficult for us tall ones (if you're fat, it's even worse).
I actually have been well aware of this and have had reason to be grateful for my short yet compact frame. A friend of mine had to buy a car specifically to accommodate his long, lanky frame and legs. And I rather enjoy being 5'5" but stocky and dense and muscular, I'm actually way stronger than I ever thought I could be growing up as an unathletic kid - indeed stronger than a taller person would be at my weight, if I cared about that in the least.

As I said, I don't have a problem with my height, I have a problem with people trying to assert that somehow it puts me in the "beta male" category, a priori to anything I've done, and apropos of nothing I've said or done to them. Those kinds of assertions help create the reality of human thought more than anyone cares to think, and the folks who espouse these kinds of opinions usually end up denying any responsibility in the matter, or just go "well, that's what the study says, I'm sorry you're so short". It's aggravating because it ends up coming off like tall people trying to assert their own right to social dominance, which I think is a bunch of arrogant laziness. The only other time I've heard this theory seriously proposed and agreed with was at a lunchtable discussion at Stanford, and one of the reasons I had such a bad time there was that the place was full of kids who thought one or another thing made them better than other people, whether or not it was height, intelligence, future earning potential, athletic ability or anything else. It gets wearing on the soul to be around other people who are continually trying to convince you about how much cooler they are than everybody else.

 #138967  by RentCavalier
 Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:32 am
Short people have...no reason to...
Short people have...noooo reason tooo...
Short people have...no reason to liiiiive!

I'm 6'2" bitches. :thumbup:

 #138987  by Zeus
 Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:40 pm
Replay wrote:I just think the whole tone of the article is snarky and crappy towards us krill, as I put it. I don't mind that people want to discuss height, that's all good. But it matters whether or not there's respect in the discussion.

"Shrimps" != respect. If I went up to the guy who wrote the article and went "Hey, Lurch! Hey, can you wear this antenna hat? I want to see if I can get the Dodger game over here," chances are that it would piss him off, no matter what he thought about tall or short or whatnot getting more money/women/power/whatever. That's not a meaningful discussion about height. The article has elements of meaningful discussion about height, but they are polluted by the tone, and the final sentiment "pity but what you can't all grow higher and be happier". "Pity you're not as tall as me and as likely to experience the good things in life as a result." That isn't a meaningful discussion, it's a put-down, and the notion that short people have a "chip on their shoulders" about height has a lot to do with the fact that some of these "discussions" are put-downs and condescension masquerading as scientific thrust and then we have to hear about it.
A lot of that is biological as well. You see it in children (ie. bullying) and in office workers, where a lot of shorter adults tend to have some level of a Napoleon complex. Because of that they tend to do better since they seem to always be battling.

 #138989  by Mental
 Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:48 pm
Yeah, I remember my mom talking to me about that at one point with her office. It was her opinion that the short guys did eventually get some sort of complex about getting bullyragged all the time, with the result that they ended up with much more of a desire to dominate at work, worked much harder, and often ended up in positions with high salary and power as a result, bullyragging the taller guys who ended up working for them.

 #138994  by Julius Seeker
 Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:13 pm
I`m 6`4, I think the next tallest person here aside from Eric.

Tall clothing is the worst, you essentially have to time your arrival at the store by shipments.It`s like trying to get a newly released videogame system without a pre-order. The population of tall people vastly outstrips the supply requirements of tall people clothing. I have 4 pairs of pants I regularly wear currently (casual wear), I am normally comfortable with around 10, I often shop at 5-10 different stores before I find something adequate.

There`s non-casual of course, which are easy to get ahold of, but that doesn't always suit my activities. I need jeans; they're VERY hard to get in tall sizes here.

 #139194  by KluYa
 Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:09 pm
Tupac Seekur wrote:I`m 6`4, I think the next tallest person here aside from Eric.
I'm 6'4". And that's a bit weird to learn that about Eric. I always imagined him as a bit of a midget for some reason.

Sorry if I'm bumping this topic up a bit. I'm not really on these boards much.

 #139198  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:04 am
Eric is 6'5 or 6'6.