Black Lantern Corps?

[Eric]

Somebody explain damn you.

[bovine]

There are lots of different coloured lantern corps. I know this and I don't even really do the whole comic book thing.

(my copy of phonogram FINALLY came in the mail on monday and it was amazing. Thanks Chris!)

[Chris]

There are lots of different coloured lantern corps. I know this and I don't even really do the whole comic book thing.

(my copy of phonogram FINALLY came in the mail on monday and it was amazing. Thanks Chris!)

the new seires of it going on right now is not only better but beautiful color.

[Kupek]

Wikipedia. I spent about 20 minutes the other day going "WTF...?" while reading about what's going on in the DC universe.

[Chris]

Somebody explain damn you.

Um. Black is the lack of life. thus.....zombies. that don't eat flesh....they tear out hearts. And it's kind of sadistic. when the first issue ends with Hawkman and Hawkgirl having their hearts torn out by the characters who recently died but were the most wholesome couple in comics. well....you can get the gist of the story. It's fucking Zombies vs. the galaxy. So Zombie Aquaman, Zombie Martian Manhunter, Zombie Golden Age Superman, Zombie just about everything dead killing everything alive. it's been a fucking brutal bloodbath every issue

[Eric]

This is DC's version of Marvel Zombies?

[Chris]

This is DC's version of Marvel Zombies?

no. Because these zombies both have their superpowers and whatever power is given by the black rings as well. Not to mention it doesn't hide it in an alternate universe. Nope. It's a zombie story in the main superhero universe that might actually have reprecussions. Seeing Zombie Aquaman Tear out Aqualads heart was kind of precious.

[Lox]

It's awesome. That's all I can say. I actually have a Black Lantern ring that I got from my comic shop. It's nice.

Yeah...and someone (The Black Hand, I believe) stole Bruce Wayne's skull from his grave. I don't know where that's going yet. Martian Manhunter came down and tore up GL (Hal Jordan) and the Flash. It was crazy.

There are not just green and yellow rings now. You also have blue, violet, red, orange, black, etc.

[Tessian]

[Chris]

It's awesome. That's all I can say. I actually have a Black Lantern ring that I got from my comic shop. It's nice.

Yeah...and someone (The Black Hand, I believe) stole Bruce Wayne's skull from his grave. I don't know where that's going yet. Martian Manhunter came down and tore up GL (Hal Jordan) and the Flash. It was crazy.

There are not just green and yellow rings now. You also have blue, violet, red, orange, black, etc.

Plus Dex-Star is awesome. I mean c'mon. Raging pussy

[SineSwiper]

Not to mention it doesn't hide it in an alternate universe. Nope. It's a zombie story in the main superhero universe that might actually have reprecussions.

Wrong! They will reset it with time travel or admit it was an alternate version or something else. They don't kill off that many characters without having a reset button.

[Chris]

Not to mention it doesn't hide it in an alternate universe. Nope. It's a zombie story in the main superhero universe that might actually have reprecussions.

Wrong! They will reset it with time travel or admit it was an alternate version or something else. They don't kill off that many characters without having a reset button.

you can't reset something like this with time travel. And it's the main earth....as it's hitting pretty much every single book in some way or another.

[Kupek]

It's comcis. They can do whatever they want.

[Zeus]

It's comcis. They can do whatever they want.

Understatement of the year

[SineSwiper]

you can't reset something like this with time travel. And it's the main earth....as it's hitting pretty much every single book in some way or another.

*cough* *cough* Onslaught *cough*

[Chris]

you can't reset something like this with time travel. And it's the main earth....as it's hitting pretty much every single book in some way or another.

*cough* *cough* Onslaught *cough*

yes. once the second biggest name in comics leaves they might start retconning things. hel I'm pretty sure a majority of the deaths will end up being brought back to life by some white lantern or sme shit. but for now I'm enjoying the ride in the DC Universe.

[Mental]

This actually sounds kind of cool. Time for me to hit up a comics shop and get some DC titles?

[Zeus]

This actually sounds kind of cool. Time for me to hit up a comics shop and get some DC titles?

...or C Display and Demonoid

[Chris]

This actually sounds kind of cool. Time for me to hit up a comics shop and get some DC titles?

...or C Display and Demonoid

fuck off you dip shit theiving ass fuck douchebag. seriously zeus. Fuck you for even suggesting it.

[Zeus]

This actually sounds kind of cool. Time for me to hit up a comics shop and get some DC titles?

...or C Display and Demonoid

fuck off you dip shit theiving ass fuck douchebag. seriously zeus. Fuck you for even suggesting it.

Sorry, I'm married :-)

Seriously, though, it's actually a good way for him to test out some of the comics to see if he likes them. If he consumes them on a regular basis, then he should buy, I agree (I'm not just preaching here, I do it all the time with movies). But since he's trying to find out what all this stuff is about, let him grab a couple and read them to see if he's interesting in pursuing further.

[SineSwiper]

It's not like comics are that expensive.

[Zeus]

It's not like comics are that expensive.

Are they about $4 a pop now? No, they're not overly expensive if you're reading a couple a month.

[Chris]

It's not like comics are that expensive.

Are they about $4 a pop now? No, they're not overly expensive if you're reading a couple a month.

2.99 for most. 3.99 for books with extra content (Or a bunch of marvel books who don't provide extra content in anything)

[Zeus]

It's not like comics are that expensive.

Are they about $4 a pop now? No, they're not overly expensive if you're reading a couple a month.

2.99 for most. 3.99 for books with extra content (Or a bunch of marvel books who don't provide extra content in anything)

That's fair. Try a couple out online to see if you like and if you do, go and grab some back issues and get it monthly. I see zero issues with that

[Chris]

Are they about $4 a pop now? No, they're not overly expensive if you're reading a couple a month.

2.99 for most. 3.99 for books with extra content (Or a bunch of marvel books who don't provide extra content in anything)

That's fair. Try a couple out online to see if you like and if you do, go and grab some back issues and get it monthly. I see zero issues with that

yes. if they are offered online then find them. If not IGN, Newsarama, DC comics, and other sites provide multi page previews of a lot of comics. pirate them and you can fucking die in a fire.

[Eric]

My problem with comics is that I don't even know where to start with something like this when it comes to trying to follow the plot/storyline. =/

[Zeus]

My problem with comics is that I don't even know where to start with something like this when it comes to trying to follow the plot/storyline. =/

That's why God invented Google and Demonoid :-)

[Chris]

My problem with comics is that I don't even know where to start with something like this when it comes to trying to follow the plot/storyline. =/

That's why God invented Google and Demonoid :-)

fuck of zeus. really. fuck off.

[Zeus]

My problem with comics is that I don't even know where to start with something like this when it comes to trying to follow the plot/storyline. =/

That's why God invented Google and Demonoid :-)

fuck of zeus. really. fuck off.

I'm advocating the purchase of back issues if they like it and you're telling me to screw off? I'm trying to convince them to spend money on your comics by using C Display and digital copies as a testing ground, not replacing the purchase.

[Chris]

That's why God invented Google and Demonoid :-)

fuck of zeus. really. fuck off.

I'm advocating the purchase of back issues if they like it and you're telling me to screw off? I'm trying to convince them to spend money on your comics by using C Display and digital copies as a testing ground, not replacing the purchase.

if it's offered by the people who put the bok out. DC gives previews of almost every book. both on their websites blog and through other websites. And yes. I am telling you to fuck off. this is how I make my living. And comics are a very niche thing that torrents have killed.

[SineSwiper]

And comics are a very niche thing that torrents have killed.

Oh, please. Torrents didn't kill comics, just like torrents didn't kill music or video games. Nightmare crossovers spreading fifty different comics and writers jumping ship is what killed comics for me. I'd probably still be subscribing if it wasn't for that bullshit.

[Mental]

Yeah, the "fake collectible" wave in the 1990s killed it for me too. I don't even read the free comics on Marvel.com, and I would if I were still a serious comic fan.

[Chris]

Yeah, the "fake collectible" wave in the 1990s killed it for me too. I don't even read the free comics on Marvel.com, and I would if I were still a serious comic fan.

exactl. it wasn't crossovers that killed comics. it was the speculator market and the shift in distribution from newstands to the Direct Market. that's what murdered the industry in the 90's. Then, It recovered for a while. and with the rise of torrents it's began suffering again. Torrenting is kiling the industry right now. not entirely but it does hurt like hell. Some of the most well reviewed books are dying in sales. these same books are also some of the most downloaded. it's ridiculous to claim the 90's bubble is what's killing comics now. no. It's a combination of torrenting and a glut of new books hitting the shelf at the same time. Blackest Night not only has it's main series but 6 miniseries shooting off of it as well as having tangential tie-ins in every book. Every single one of those tie-ins will bring a boost in readership with an on average 23% retention rate after the tie-in is over which is a big boost. I've seen books go from selling 13,000 copies to 35,000 and after the event tie in the sales stay around 20-25000. Hell a good event will help every single book it touches if the writers are able to manage it well. A bad event will absolutely kill a book. Take Wonder Woman for example which had an event called Amazons Attack....in which the amazons commited a terrorist attack on washington DC (WORST FUCKING STORY EVER) Wonder Woman went from selling over 80,000 copies and still hasn't recovered and is stuck at about 38000 and slowly going up as the new writer has come on and told stories that resonate well enough that sales are increasing at a pretty decent rate as poeple get over the shock of how bad that story was. and that book was years ago. it's taken years fr even a slight recovery. That's the interesting thing about comics though. Right now and the reason comics are in the 2.99 to 3.99 range is that a super big hit now is something that sells over 80,000 copies. Seriously. The top ten usually has one or maybe 2 books that crack 100,000. And yet look at the mount of times a 0 day torrent is downloaded. Compare the 2. It's fucking painful. and since the biggest comic downloading site went down a while back sales numbers have reason enough for a lot of analysts to give the fall of Z-cult credit for a large portion of the rise.

[SineSwiper]

I save my comics, so I don't see the value in torrents. However, all of what I get nowadays is trades, which isn't really worth money, but it's easy to get a big collection of a series. I can't really read comics online because of the same reasons why I can't read books online.

[Chris]

I save my comics, so I don't see the value in torrents. However, all of what I get nowadays is trades, which isn't really worth money, but it's easy to get a big collection of a series. I can't really read comics online because of the same reasons why I can't read books online.

trades really are the way to go. The only reason I don't fully go trades is the ridiculous tax write off I get every year from comics. but I get a couple trades a month and have shifted to trades for most of my marvel stuff since they jumped a lot of their prices to 3.99 without giving anything extra content wise. Unlike DC who added a 10 page backup story to every 3.99 book they put out which is great as it allowed a lot of cancelled titles to come back from the dead.

[Zeus]

Blame your audience, Chris. If they're not willing to support the industry, they don't deserve the good product. I've never been shy about downloading, but I also legitimately pay for more movies and games than anyone I know (by far; and you've seen my collection, you know it exists). If I like something, I will buy it even if I can get it for free. And I have the technology and know-how to never pay for another movie or video game again for the rest of my life.

Hell, I've sat on movies I've downloaded waiting to pay for a movie ticket to see it in theatres before watching it at home. I've had an R4 chip for my DS for over a year and have never actually used it while my DS collection has grown to over 120 games. When those beautiful Dreamwave Transformers comics came out a few years ago, I just bought them when I could easily have grabbed them from Z Cult or Demonoid. Why? Because I want to support the industry.

This ain't no "Zeus patting himself on the back" post, I'm just trying to show you that not everyone who downloads stuff is a thief who never pays for anything. Sure, it has an effect on the retail industry, but as music downloads are proving, there's a ton of coin to be made if the price is right, there's enough of an audience, and people ain't stuck on antiquated business models. Comics have always been a niche industry aside from a small blip in the 90s when they shot themselves in the foot with their greed and had no idea now to actually nurture and grow the industry (incidentally, that's the time period when I got into, and out of, comics; still have all those comics from back then). They gotta change how they do business and stay with the times if they expect to survive.

P.S. One a side note, finally opened up by BlazBlue and played through the Arcade Mode once and part of a story mode. Pretty good so far but I have to get into it more

[Lox]

I save my comics, so I don't see the value in torrents. However, all of what I get nowadays is trades, which isn't really worth money, but it's easy to get a big collection of a series. I can't really read comics online because of the same reasons why I can't read books online.

trades really are the way to go. The only reason I don't fully go trades is the ridiculous tax write off I get every year from comics. but I get a couple trades a month and have shifted to trades for most of my marvel stuff since they jumped a lot of their prices to 3.99 without giving anything extra content wise. Unlike DC who added a 10 page backup story to every 3.99 book they put out which is great as it allowed a lot of cancelled titles to come back from the dead.

Yeah, I read the entire Fables and Jack of the Fables series in trade form so I could get caught up and continue with the actual comics. That'd have been impossible without trades.

[Chris]

I save my comics, so I don't see the value in torrents. However, all of what I get nowadays is trades, which isn't really worth money, but it's easy to get a big collection of a series. I can't really read comics online because of the same reasons why I can't read books online.

trades really are the way to go. The only reason I don't fully go trades is the ridiculous tax write off I get every year from comics. but I get a couple trades a month and have shifted to trades for most of my marvel stuff since they jumped a lot of their prices to 3.99 without giving anything extra content wise. Unlike DC who added a 10 page backup story to every 3.99 book they put out which is great as it allowed a lot of cancelled titles to come back from the dead.

Yeah, I read the entire Fables and Jack of the Fables series in trade form so I could get caught up and continue with the actual comics. That'd have been impossible without trades.

I actually have switched to trades right before the Great Fables Crossover due to the fact that James Jean isn't on covers anymore.