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  • Wow @ Mel Gibson....again!

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #147412  by SineSwiper
 Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:24 am
What a sad excuse of a man...
 #147418  by Imakeholesinu
 Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:56 pm
Damn it Riggs keep your god damn mouth shut!
 #147957  by ManaMan
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:29 am
WTF happened to that guy?? Was he always like that but we just never noticed before?
 #147963  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:53 am
Well, it's a combination between the media bending, moulding, and blowing celebrity gossip way out of proportion, a judgemental audience to feed gossip to, and the fact that Mel Gibson has been having a lot of emotional issues since his divorce 4 or 5 years ago.
 #147981  by SineSwiper
 Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:53 pm
That, and he's a fucking jew-hating, death-threatening bastard.
 #147992  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:13 am
Eric wrote:You forgot homophobe. ^_^
So is your favourite rapper =P



Sine, you're being judgmental and hypocritical:
While I don't have the utmost faith in Judochristianity, Scientology is a dangerous cult, through and through. It brainwashes people (literally), steals thousands of dollars from each of its members, and many members have alienated their families or committed suicide.
I think Mormonism is second in the "crazy, let's rob people of their money and sanity" quote-religions-unquote.
Sine on Scientology and Mormonism:
Both religions are filled with blatant bigotry and a creation story that would make any other person's head hurt with how amazingly stupid it is.
 #147993  by Kupek
 Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:23 am
Religion's are not above criticism. There's a difference between criticizing a religion and making blanket judgements about all of the people who follow that religion. And the institution of Scientology has done some horrible things, and for a background on the institution of Mormonism, read Under the Banner of Heaven.
 #147997  by SineSwiper
 Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:53 pm
Yeah, there's a difference between "Scientology is a dangerous cult" and "the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world". (And Mel, the correct answer is "religion", not "Jews".)
 #148003  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:19 am
SineSwiper wrote:Yeah, there's a difference between "Scientology is a dangerous cult" and "the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world". (And Mel, the correct answer is "religion", not "Jews".)
Both are slander. Yours is obviously meant to incite a negative reaction towards a group of people. The major difference is that you were presumably sober during your statements; and he was drunk out of his mind, after a divorce, and after a year of harassment from Jewish people over his movie.

My point is that one of the major reason this is even an issue is because of an audience who loves to be judgmental (and hypocritical in your case; particularly since you just in your last post made the exact same statement, except overing a wider range of people) Otherwise this wouldn't be an issue.
 #148005  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:35 am
See, you're under the misconception that all religions are created equal, and thus, we should honor them all. This may be true under the US Constitution, but not in reality.

Scientology is a cult invented by a sci-fi writer. People are asked to give out thousands of dollars to even get to OT III, where they learn their creationist theory. During that time, they are brainwashed by auditing. And I don't use the word "brainwashed" lightly. They are asked to do repetitive tasks over and over again, while brain response is measured. This is a form of conditioning to train obedience. They need to go through a lot of phases of this before they get to OT III because the story is so fucking crazy, that anybody who would first hear about it before joining wouldn't bother with the whole cult. Some people don't make it.

Some people have committed suicide because of this cult. Some people have given them their life savings in the name of this cult. Some people have followed their dangerous ideas about medicine and died because of it. Scientology is a cult. It follows most of the warning signs of a cult. More info here: http://www.xenu.net/roland-intro.html. To declare Scientology as a religion is to be ignorant of the facts. It's not an opinion; it's a fact.

And Mormonism has a similarly outlandish creationist story, written by a con artist, and they also force their members to give money to the church. Any normal religion doesn't force its member to donate to the church.
 #148012  by Kupek
 Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:51 pm
Criticizing an institution is not slander. You do it all the time. You seem to refuse to acknowledge that there is a difference between institutions and those that follow/are a part of/belong to those institutions.
 #148021  by Zeus
 Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:44 am
Kupek wrote:Criticizing an institution is not slander. You do it all the time. You seem to refuse to acknowledge that there is a difference between institutions and those that follow/are a part of/belong to those institutions.
But aren't you at least some part of the problem by following/are a part of/belong to the institutions and deserve that criticism extended to yourself?
 #148023  by Shrinweck
 Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:32 pm
Emotional issues or not are you really defending this anti-Semitic asshole? I don't care how fucking stressed you are how can you forgive someone for lashing out at groups of people like he has? And twice? It's not an isolated incident. The guy obviously has a few cards missing from his deck when it comes to race and religion.