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Diablo 3 delayed until 2012.
- Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Does anyone really care? I mean, of course I'm going to buy it but it's not worth looking forward to the release of a Blizzard game until a specific date is set and I haven't seen them do that yet with D3.
Wasn't it always comin' in 2012?
I was there on that fateful day, were you?
I wouldn't call a release target of a YEAR specific :D
Maybe in the scheme of human civilization, but as I see it nothing but an actual DATE is specific
Maybe in the scheme of human civilization, but as I see it nothing but an actual DATE is specific
There was some slim chance that it might've came out toward the end of 2011.
*snicker*Don wrote:There was some slim chance that it might've came out toward the end of 2011.
I was there on that fateful day, were you?
I always look at it this way. A Blizzard game will come out when it comes out, but you know it will be a solid game for your wait time.
I think the 2011 release date was more of a 'nobody said it was impossible' deal.
I don't understand how a game in open beta 3 months before 2012 won't be ready. Of course this is blizzard and I love the hell out of their games.
Eric you've obviously been playing the game what seems like it is unpolished or needs work?
(speaking of blizzard games, anyone playing SC2 still? I've been playing a lot of 1v1 ladder lately)
Eric you've obviously been playing the game what seems like it is unpolished or needs work?
(speaking of blizzard games, anyone playing SC2 still? I've been playing a lot of 1v1 ladder lately)
I have no idea to be honest. Servers are a little unstable.Anarky wrote:I don't understand how a game in open beta 3 months before 2012 won't be ready. Of course this is blizzard and I love the hell out of their games.
Eric you've obviously been playing the game what seems like it is unpolished or needs work?
(speaking of blizzard games, anyone playing SC2 still? I've been playing a lot of 1v1 ladder lately)
But the beta is only 1/6th of Act 1.
You can access about 13 levels worth of skills out of 30, so it's hard to say what's working and what isn't, all 5 classes are a ton of fun.
From the item page, it looks like Diablo 3 is going to make the same mistakes by making Uniques totally worthless so you're better off using (noun) (noun) or (adjective) (noun) rares. I mean, it didn't exactly hurt the game, but I think Diablo 2 didn't really see that much longevity until the Uniques got revamped to be crazy overpowered.
What the fuck kind of quick look is an hour and a half :P
Shrinweck wrote:Does anyone really care?
I care! >:O
Anarky wrote:(speaking of blizzard games, anyone playing SC2 still? I've been playing a lot of 1v1 ladder lately)
Guh, i havent played since I was in Diamond and it was the top division, before masters and grandmasters. I still like to watch streams, and would like to get back into it but seriously that game is stressful.
Just beat the beta borrowing my buddies account as a barbarian. I enjoyed it, but you can never get enough diablo.
There were something I wasn't a huge fan about, like only having access to so many quick selection abilities and needing to unlock more slots by leveling.
Noticed a few bugs involving the combat text and some random errors it seemed like.
There were something I wasn't a huge fan about, like only having access to so many quick selection abilities and needing to unlock more slots by leveling.
Noticed a few bugs involving the combat text and some random errors it seemed like.
Guhhhhh, people are in a beta right now, but I AM NOT!!! >:O
One of my friends got in today, too. SW:TOR in less than five days time cushions the blow.
I got a D3 invite for the beta today. Joy.
Cant wait for work to be over!
Cant wait for work to be over!
Tessian got in today, too. But I still have my SW:TOR :(
Its taking forever to DL, 45% done in an hour.... !
Diablo is either maybe delayed until June or is coming in as early as June, depending on how you want to spin it.
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/yep-diabl ... gain/3977/
http://kotaku.com/5883856/diablo-iii-co ... ps-by-june
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/yep-diabl ... gain/3977/
http://kotaku.com/5883856/diablo-iii-co ... ps-by-june
I'm so stupid, I assumed that when I got into Diablo's 3 beta in 2011 it'd be out before March, silly me forgetting Blizzard is the king of delays.
I can't imagine that the game's single player campaign isn't done, it has to be all the little system changes they keep doing(most telling from the most recent beta patch).
I can't imagine that the game's single player campaign isn't done, it has to be all the little system changes they keep doing(most telling from the most recent beta patch).
Interesting. Last impression I got was this game wasn't coming until the fourth quarter. Definitely need my coop gaming fix in a game that takes more than a weekend to beat (or at least has massive replayability).
Think it may have something to do with either the barter system and/or the transition to consoles?Eric wrote:I'm so stupid, I assumed that when I got into Diablo's 3 beta in 2011 it'd be out before March, silly me forgetting Blizzard is the king of delays.
I can't imagine that the game's single player campaign isn't done, it has to be all the little system changes they keep doing(most telling from the most recent beta patch).
I was there on that fateful day, were you?
My thoughts:
I discovered there is multiplayer in the beta, which makes it a little more fun. Granted, since the beta is only part of the first act all people are doing are skeleton king runs. Regardless, its fun to plow through the dungeons in a group. I like how the drops are individual to just you, it makes it better to not get screwed out of stuff as a ranged character (i made a demon hunter).
The game seems dumbed down. Instead of skill trees you simply get the abilities as you level up and can swap out skills all you want. Plus, you cant upgrade skills? AND you dont need to worry about assigning attributes? What the heck. With this system, every demon hunter (etc), potentially, will be the same as every other demon hunter at your level besides whatever gear you are wearing. I'm not so sure thats a good thing.
I like the crafting, its way better to get your magical gear this way than it was in D2 to gamble on items. Plus, it gives you something to do with all the crappy magical gear drops you pick up. Instead of selling them or leaving them on the ground you can break them down for crafting materials. The crafting leveling also gives you something to do with your money, which was always in too much abundance in D2.
Along the lines of dumbing things down, the town portals are unlimited now and so is identifying an item. You now have to wait for a time bar to fill up before it works, but that is not a big deal. It seems like they dont want you to make decisions on how much stuff to carry anymore.
The followers are beefed up and I like that you can give them skills.
My demon hunter is level 12 and its slow moving at this point since you cant progress in the game to fight monsters that give you more XP. I just started a monk to see how that character plays, but it wouldnt let me name her Gayle since it has Gay in the name, lol. That was one of my best friends names and i liked the unusual spelling she was given so I used to use that name for all my female characters in whatever game I'm playing. Oh well.
Any insight from other players?
I discovered there is multiplayer in the beta, which makes it a little more fun. Granted, since the beta is only part of the first act all people are doing are skeleton king runs. Regardless, its fun to plow through the dungeons in a group. I like how the drops are individual to just you, it makes it better to not get screwed out of stuff as a ranged character (i made a demon hunter).
The game seems dumbed down. Instead of skill trees you simply get the abilities as you level up and can swap out skills all you want. Plus, you cant upgrade skills? AND you dont need to worry about assigning attributes? What the heck. With this system, every demon hunter (etc), potentially, will be the same as every other demon hunter at your level besides whatever gear you are wearing. I'm not so sure thats a good thing.
I like the crafting, its way better to get your magical gear this way than it was in D2 to gamble on items. Plus, it gives you something to do with all the crappy magical gear drops you pick up. Instead of selling them or leaving them on the ground you can break them down for crafting materials. The crafting leveling also gives you something to do with your money, which was always in too much abundance in D2.
Along the lines of dumbing things down, the town portals are unlimited now and so is identifying an item. You now have to wait for a time bar to fill up before it works, but that is not a big deal. It seems like they dont want you to make decisions on how much stuff to carry anymore.
The followers are beefed up and I like that you can give them skills.
My demon hunter is level 12 and its slow moving at this point since you cant progress in the game to fight monsters that give you more XP. I just started a monk to see how that character plays, but it wouldnt let me name her Gayle since it has Gay in the name, lol. That was one of my best friends names and i liked the unusual spelling she was given so I used to use that name for all my female characters in whatever game I'm playing. Oh well.
Any insight from other players?
I wouldn't confuse variety with dumbing down.Flip wrote:The game seems dumbed down. Instead of skill trees you simply get the abilities as you level up and can swap out skills all you want. Plus, you cant upgrade skills? AND you dont need to worry about assigning attributes? What the heck. With this system, every demon hunter (etc), potentially, will be the same as every other demon hunter at your level besides whatever gear you are wearing. I'm not so sure thats a good thing.
Along the lines of dumbing things down, the town portals are unlimited now and so is identifying an item. You now have to wait for a time bar to fill up before it works, but that is not a big deal. It seems like they dont want you to make decisions on how much stuff to carry anymore.
Let's be honest about this for a second, Diablo 2's skill system sucked, you'd have to move down a tree until you got to the skill you wanted to use, then you'd drop 20 points in it without question. Blizzard later patched in skill Synergy, which increased damage to abilities if you invested in them, again, this still sucked, it just meant you'd invest more into older abilities to make that 1 ability you used over and over again more powerful.
In Diablo 3, you have access to 7 abilities at any given time out of 21, there is far more variety and diversity to be had when your skill-set can change thousands of combinations, as opposed to say, a Sorc with 20 points in Firewall and 15 in Hydra vs 15 Firewall 20 Hydra. :p
As for Town Portal/Scroll of Identify, meh, most of us ran around with 20 town portal/scroll of identify to begin with!
Now keep this in mind, at one point in beta, you never had to return to town, you could disenchant everything or sell it out in the field, they changed it back so that you have to manage your inventory and head back to town.
Fair enough. It also looks like you can use runes to change how your skills/abilities work, but as far as i know there arent any runes in the beta. This aspect will open up even more skill possibilities.
I wish in multi the players still split gold. It is a little annoying that those drops are unique to you so you have to run over and get it. The game on my comp is butter smooth, even with a lot going on in a multi game.
The normal mode is ridiculously easy. I tore through it with both the DH and Monk without ever coming close to dying. The sound effects are slightly invasive. I like the rougher attack fx, it really sounds like you are kicking ass God of War style, but after a while it gets on my nerves.. alla God of War.
I wish in multi the players still split gold. It is a little annoying that those drops are unique to you so you have to run over and get it. The game on my comp is butter smooth, even with a lot going on in a multi game.
The normal mode is ridiculously easy. I tore through it with both the DH and Monk without ever coming close to dying. The sound effects are slightly invasive. I like the rougher attack fx, it really sounds like you are kicking ass God of War style, but after a while it gets on my nerves.. alla God of War.
Diablo 2 on normal was faceroll too. 
Don't let those nostalgia glasses trick you!
Don't let those nostalgia glasses trick you!
I didnt realize the beta was so small a few days ago. I rolled through with a wizard too and I like how they play, i'll probably start with one of those. I found and made some high +int gear and with that your spells simply demolish everything.
Its great how the single and multi player are one game. There was no reason why they couldnt do that with D2. I also like how your money and blacksmith upgrades carry over from one character to the next.
I guess thats all i got, i played the hell out of the beta enough to where there isnt much to do so.... bring on the real game!
Its great how the single and multi player are one game. There was no reason why they couldnt do that with D2. I also like how your money and blacksmith upgrades carry over from one character to the next.
I guess thats all i got, i played the hell out of the beta enough to where there isnt much to do so.... bring on the real game!
Well see, now you're fucked cause you're in the same situation as the rest of us, waiting for Blizzard to release their damn game. lol.
Actually Diablo 2 on normal was very hard because the act 4 stuff are pretty much the strongest stuff in the game by a significant margin and really need level 30 skills to deal with them effectively. Sure on Hell everything kills you in two hits but 5 Oblivion/Abyss Knights throwing some magic bolt at you at the same time on normal kills you just fine too. You're unlikely to have magic damage reduction gear which is absolutely crucial against Diablo himself.Eric wrote:Diablo 2 on normal was faceroll too.
Don't let those nostalgia glasses trick you!
Im sure D3 will be difficult in the later stages, too. For me, I always breathed a sigh of relief if i survived the 2nd Act boss and the early stages of Act 3 in D2. That was the period where you were trying to run through super fast and your character was hardly developed.
No it's not, go play D2 again. lol.Don wrote:Actually Diablo 2 on normal was very hard because the act 4 stuff are pretty much the strongest stuff in the game by a significant margin and really need level 30 skills to deal with them effectively. Sure on Hell everything kills you in two hits but 5 Oblivion/Abyss Knights throwing some magic bolt at you at the same time on normal kills you just fine too. You're unlikely to have magic damage reduction gear which is absolutely crucial against Diablo himself.Eric wrote:Diablo 2 on normal was faceroll too.
Don't let those nostalgia glasses trick you!
You have to be playing Diablo 2 in a very streamlined way to not experience at least some difficulty with normal mode. Not all of us want to go in with pre-determined builds and not do any experimenting. Normal mode was adequately satisfying in difficulty for me and my friends.
If you're talking single player then yes, you are correct, Eric heh
If you're talking single player then yes, you are correct, Eric heh
If you play a character that requires a melee hit then normal Diablo was quite hard. Iron Maiden still killed you (back when Oblivion Knights still cast that). Chill effect was common, and Diablo has 75% block and of course meleeing leaves you very vulnerable to the lightning hose. Before they started the random mix of monsters, there's really no danger of dying in Act 5 or even Act 4 on Hell as long as you avoid Oblivion Knights (which is only relevent in Diablo runs), because by the time you get to Hell you can pretty much kill everything in two hits so dying in two hits isn't a big deal. You can't do in normal until you hit level 30, and Act 4 stuff don't actually give you a lot of experience, so you're often going to be stuck at say level 27-28 or so before Diablo. Even if you're say a Sorceress who has no problem of beating Diablo at 28, not getting your mastery really makes the fight way longer than it should be.
Any melee based builds have a lot of problem with Diablo and Oblivion Knights in normal, and again in Hell at least you can kill the Oblivion Knights in one hit by the time you get that far. You can't do that on normal but an Iron Maiden will still one shot you easy.
Any melee based builds have a lot of problem with Diablo and Oblivion Knights in normal, and again in Hell at least you can kill the Oblivion Knights in one hit by the time you get that far. You can't do that on normal but an Iron Maiden will still one shot you easy.
I have my CE ordered
Being married to a programmer is like having a cat. You talk to it but you're never really sure if it hears you, much less comprehends what you say.
Yeah I have the pre-download on my PC.. I can't believe Blizzard is still using that completely shit bittorent client for downloads.
I'll buy it soon and do the pre-DL thing, too. I want to make sure i can get in asap when it releases! Fun times.
Although, the beta has not made it clear to me which character i want to start with...
Although, the beta has not made it clear to me which character i want to start with...
I never got in but I'm fairly certain I'm going to be using a monk when I play with Tessian. Probably going with a barbarian for when I'm playing on b.net with others/alone.
PC Gamer ran a poll where 45% or so of people said they were going to play a demon hunter, with an even spread among the other classes (give or take 1-4%). Probably going to stay away from that class until things even out or I stop caring about being the same class as a ton of other people.
PC Gamer ran a poll where 45% or so of people said they were going to play a demon hunter, with an even spread among the other classes (give or take 1-4%). Probably going to stay away from that class until things even out or I stop caring about being the same class as a ton of other people.
I'm leaning toward traditional wizard. Like the Demon Hunter, everyone loved Bowazons in D2 because they had range and some durability, but its the casters who deal out the massive damage. I've always been pretty good at keeping fragile characters alive.
I think Witch Doctor seems most unappealing due to curses. Second to that I would say DH's because while the range is good, traps are stupid.
I think Witch Doctor seems most unappealing due to curses. Second to that I would say DH's because while the range is good, traps are stupid.
Considering the fact that there's a great deal of flexibility with the talents I'll pretty much have 1 of each class.
Well, yeah, at some point that'll happen :P
Oh, also, nice little screw you from Blizzard in a way from their b.net support page:
What bonuses do I get for pre-ordering Diablo III?
The benefit for players who pre-order Diablo III is that they will have the ability to download and pre-install Diablo III before the game launches. Players who have the game pre-installed will be able to jump straight into the game the moment Diablo III hits the shelves!
That isn't a bonus. That's common sense.
What bonuses do I get for pre-ordering Diablo III?
The benefit for players who pre-order Diablo III is that they will have the ability to download and pre-install Diablo III before the game launches. Players who have the game pre-installed will be able to jump straight into the game the moment Diablo III hits the shelves!
That isn't a bonus. That's common sense.
Shrinweck wrote:Oh, also, nice little screw you from Blizzard in a way from their b.net support page:
What bonuses do I get for pre-ordering Diablo III?
The benefit for players who pre-order Diablo III is that they will have the ability to download and pre-install Diablo III before the game launches. Players who have the game pre-installed will be able to jump straight into the game the moment Diablo III hits the shelves!
That isn't a bonus. That's common sense.
I guess if you want perks they want you to buy the CE. With it, you get some free armor dyes that can be used infinitely and wings as an option, or something. Not enough for me to care to spend $40 more. My version is DL'ed and waiting release, I assume with the CE you need to wait for the game to be delivered and then you can install, you would think they would let the CE people pre-load somehow.
The CE was cut-off from pre-orders at EB back in November or December, they haven't been available to get for a while there. If you want one, you'll probably have to go to Best Buy or Target relatively early.
And the CE comes with a HELLUVA lot more than some garbage DLC (it's all cosmetic or useless or for games I'll never play) that I will be selling INSTANTLY. Here's the full list:
Diablo 3 Collector's Edition Contents:
208 Page Diablo 3 Art Book
24 Track Diablo 3 Soundtrack CD
Diablo 3 DVD Documentary
4 GB USB Thumbdrive shaped like a Soulstone w/ Diablo 3 Skull Base
Diablo 3 Full PC Game
Diablo 2 and Lord of Destruction Expansion (On the Soulstone Thumbdrive)
And the useless DLC garbage
Diablo 3 In Game Cosmetic Bonuses: Glowing Angel Wings, Armor Dye, In Game Banner
WoW Companion Pet Code: Fetish Shaman
Starcraft 2 Unit Decals and Battlenet Portraits
This comes with more than the Skyrim CE and costs $50 less. Heck, they give you the full Diablo 2 on the USB drive for cryin' out loud! Comparatively speaking, that's actually quite a bit of extras for the additional cost.
It looks like it actually may be worth the extra $40, especially if some Ebay moron pays me $20 or more for the useless DLC crap. And if you don't think idiots pay A LOT for useless DLC you haven't looked. I often recover well over 50% of what I paid for a game by selling the useless DLC that comes with it, regularly getting more than what I paid. Especially if I buy a CE/LE/SE version. Ain't no one ever bitched about free, brand-new, big-name, AAA video games.
As much as I despise the value conjured up by the publishers for the useless digital "bonuses" they package in with games and charge you real money for (the CE/SE/LE versions), there are a ton of idiots who will seriously overpay for that crap. Basically, if you never have any intention of using the DLC you get with your game, toss it up on Ebay. And make that decision right away, it's usually worth more in the first few weeks (unless the game has real staying power). You'd be shocked how much you'll get for it. Ebay is chock-full of idiots with too much money and far too little brains.
EDIT: Holy shit, they really are limited this CE. Look what people are asking for it a month before it comes out (MSRP = $100)
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=new
Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Diablo-III-Coll ... ames_Games
And one of those Ebay auctions has actual bids of $112.50 with 2 days + left. Wow
And the CE comes with a HELLUVA lot more than some garbage DLC (it's all cosmetic or useless or for games I'll never play) that I will be selling INSTANTLY. Here's the full list:
Diablo 3 Collector's Edition Contents:
208 Page Diablo 3 Art Book
24 Track Diablo 3 Soundtrack CD
Diablo 3 DVD Documentary
4 GB USB Thumbdrive shaped like a Soulstone w/ Diablo 3 Skull Base
Diablo 3 Full PC Game
Diablo 2 and Lord of Destruction Expansion (On the Soulstone Thumbdrive)
And the useless DLC garbage
Diablo 3 In Game Cosmetic Bonuses: Glowing Angel Wings, Armor Dye, In Game Banner
WoW Companion Pet Code: Fetish Shaman
Starcraft 2 Unit Decals and Battlenet Portraits
This comes with more than the Skyrim CE and costs $50 less. Heck, they give you the full Diablo 2 on the USB drive for cryin' out loud! Comparatively speaking, that's actually quite a bit of extras for the additional cost.
It looks like it actually may be worth the extra $40, especially if some Ebay moron pays me $20 or more for the useless DLC crap. And if you don't think idiots pay A LOT for useless DLC you haven't looked. I often recover well over 50% of what I paid for a game by selling the useless DLC that comes with it, regularly getting more than what I paid. Especially if I buy a CE/LE/SE version. Ain't no one ever bitched about free, brand-new, big-name, AAA video games.
As much as I despise the value conjured up by the publishers for the useless digital "bonuses" they package in with games and charge you real money for (the CE/SE/LE versions), there are a ton of idiots who will seriously overpay for that crap. Basically, if you never have any intention of using the DLC you get with your game, toss it up on Ebay. And make that decision right away, it's usually worth more in the first few weeks (unless the game has real staying power). You'd be shocked how much you'll get for it. Ebay is chock-full of idiots with too much money and far too little brains.
EDIT: Holy shit, they really are limited this CE. Look what people are asking for it a month before it comes out (MSRP = $100)
Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=new
Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Diablo-III-Coll ... ames_Games
And one of those Ebay auctions has actual bids of $112.50 with 2 days + left. Wow
I was there on that fateful day, were you?
Don't think there's a Blizzard CE I haven't gotten post Brood War. Love the art books, DVDs, CDs.