Windows 10 launches July 29

[Eric]

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindow ... n-july-29/

We designed Windows 10 to create a new generation of Windows for the 1.5 billion people using Windows today in 190 countries around the world. With Windows 10, we start delivering on our vision of more personal computing, defined by trust in how we protect and respect your personal information, mobility of the experience across your devices, and natural interactions with your Windows devices, including speech, touch, ink, and holograms. We designed Windows 10 to run our broadest device family ever, including Windows PCs, Windows tablets, Windows phones, Windows for the Internet of Things, Microsoft Surface Hub, Xbox One and Microsoft HoloLens—all working together to empower you to do great things.

I think I'm gonna jump in.

[Julius Seeker]

Just as long as it's not another Windows 8.

[Shrinweck]

I'll be upgrading to it from Win 7 probably. From what Tessian told me I should have a year to upgrade after I'm given the license key, so 11 or so months of waiting for Microsoft to patch it up should be more than enough to see how Microsoft handles things.

Either way I applied for my free Win 10 key.

The idea that they're going to charge a subscription fee after the first year definitely makes me nervous for obvious reasons. Support that may become limited if I stop paying them their fee makes this operating system sound more like ransomware. One can assume Microsoft wouldn't pull that kind of shit, but it's hard to put anything past them at this point.

[kali o.]

Uhh...is that new? I thought the windows 10 free upgrade would not be subject to additional fees. Did I miss a memo?

[Eric]

There's speculation they want to charge a sub because they're Microsoft(Queue Zeus coming in and adding dollar signs!)

Also we don't know what their plans are after the first year of free upgrades. IE will will there be a boxed version of Win 10 that's the usually $100 or will they make it a sub fee for just the license to pay off for x years.

[Shrinweck]

It's also likely that they're going to take the direction Apple has and start releasing updates to the operating system at a price rather than continually iterating on new operating systems that they spend billions to develop and advertise despite a dwindling market share.

There are reports that Microsoft wants to get out of the OS business so I wouldn't really expect Windows 11 in the foreseeable future. So, yeah, updates that cost money or a subscription fee.. it KIND of amounts to the exact same thing, but are we going to be thrown under the bus if they don't get their money?

[ManaMan]

I think I'll upgrade to Windows 9.

[Shrinweck]

I'm looking forward to what will hopefully be a more on-the-ball Microsoft when it comes to updates (they say they're going to push weekly updates rather than monthly) which will hopefully come in the form of more common service packs. Windows 7 is already out of the support cycle for service packs and I reinstalled it a few weeks ago - the 200+ or so updates took 2-3 hours to download and install. Insane. The backup PC I got going when my mobo died had Windows 8 and even though they're still supposed to be supporting that with service packs, it had 150-175 updates and still managed to take 1.5-2 hours to update.

[Shrinweck]

I lied and installed it on day one. It's working well. It took a lot of things from Win 7 and 8 and put them together in likable ways. The install was completely painless. Upgrading (not a clean install) took 30-45 minutes before I was back up in running order. On top of an up-to-date Windows 7 there were literally zero updates to install when I got it going. Okay, the installer took 5 minutes to grab updates before I even started putting Windows 10 on this thing - but I'm still happy.

[Eric]

I've been running Windows 10 for a month, no issues.

[kali o.]

I might make the jump since my win 7 folder has bloated to 32 gigs (64gb ssd os drive). Its either upgrade or clean install win 7 soon.

Any issues with windows 10 and games?

[Shrinweck]

Not that I've heard but I've only got first hand with it running Path of Exile wonderfully.

[kali o.]

Hmm...Didn't reduce my bloated install at all....disappointed but not surprised. Looks like I am forced to clean install soon....I hate doing that.

[Shrinweck]

When you upgrade it leaves behind a restore point for Windows 7 for a month that's 8+gb. Look into removing that and maybe that accounts for your bloat?

One way is use that windows free space clean up thing. I forget where it is by default, but if you create a God Mode shortcut on your desktop (make a new folder and name it something like "Admin Tools.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}" where "Admin Tools" can be anything you want it to say and go to "Free up disk space by deleting unnecessary files") you'll be able to see if you can kill the bloat that way.

When I ran it it removed something like 13-16gb from my SSD which is huge when talking 110gb or so total space.

[kali o.]

You are probably talking about the windows.old folder, and yeah, I can safely delete that soon. But as a matter of comparison, my SystemDrive/Windows folder after the Win10 install is 24GB. Check the size of yours.

It's just a reality of having a Windows OS for an extended period. You get bloat in your installer directory, hard link bloat, orphaned files, etc. I can take a chance and start deleting files in the Installer directory, but ...50/50 it'll screw something up.

[Shrinweck]

Oh okay holy shit, yeah, mine is 17gb and the 'size on disk' isn't even 12gb. I did a clean install something like three or four months ago which is what convinced me to make the jump to Windows 10 since Win 7 reinstalls were so miserable.

[kali o.]

There sure is a lot of stuff to disable if you don't like sharing data with Microsoft.

[Oracle]

Good luck stopping all of the telemetry info unless you a) have Windows 10 Enterprise or b) want to hack the telemetry service a bit.

[Shellie]

I still havent gotten my invite. I am registered though.

[Eric]

Good luck stopping all of the telemetry info unless you a) have Windows 10 Enterprise or b) want to hack the telemetry service a bit.

https://fix10.isleaked.com/ if it's really buggin you.