Looks like Sega's primary next-gen choice will simply be Xbox. PS2 and 'Cube are just getting ports or lesser titles, Xbox is getting (among all others and ports) House of the Dead 3 and ....

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://xbox.ign.com/news/41369.html">CT Xbox</a>

Looks like Sega's primary next-gen choice will simply be Xbox. PS2 and 'Cube are just getting ports or lesser titles, Xbox is getting (among all others and ports) House of the Dead 3 and ....</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I suppose it was the likely choice, seeing as Microsoft WASN'T one of the companies that put Sega out of the hardware business... but still, *sniff* t'ain't fair.</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 9pt verdana; text-align: left; '>Sega put Sega out of the hardware business :).</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Exactly :-)</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Quit smiling, you nancy boys! Both statements are true...</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>*snickers* Crazy Taxi 3??? Sure...let'em have it. Virtua Fighter 4 goes to PS2. So does Grandia II and Skies of Arcadia 2(rumor for now). Sega knows where to put its best games in. Smile baby...PS2!</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>1)Grandia 2 is not a Sega game, and 2)You're snickering at CRAZY TAXI??! Get him, Zoos.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Might as well be.</div>

[Lee]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Yeah, it's true that Grandia II was made by GameArts, a company that's always been pretty pro-Sega, but this turn around it was published by Ubi Soft, a company which generally tries to spread its games out. Besides which, the first Grandia only came out here on the Playstation. So I'd hardly call the Grandia series some kind of Sega exclusive or Sega owned thing.

And secondly: What the <i>fuck</i>? Crazy Taxi is straight up <i>mad</i> cool. It may not change by a whole lot from game to game, but it's still so fresh that it's worth playing for extended periods of time just to build up your phat pimp roll. And you can <i>bet</i> that Gus is bling blingin' that shit on some fly-ass cooch later on.

Awwww, yeeeaaahh.

--Lee S.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Bah not many went out and bought Crazy Taxi 2.</div>

[Sephy]

<div style='font: 12pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I agree with him.. Crazy Taxi was good for like, 2 hours.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Damn. I guess I wasted the other 28-or-so hours I played it, then.</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Crazy Taxi kicks ass. Even though I have both a PS2 and a GCN in my room, I still find myself playing one of those games every once in a while.</div>

[Lee]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Eric, did you not read this post? PHAT PIMP ROLL! Oh, God, Eric, I swear if you people don't realize just how phat that roll is in Crazy Taxi I'm going to run you all over.</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>*shoves a lightning bolt up G-Man's ass* No dissin' Crazy Taxi. Besides, it's hugely popular in NA. VF lost it's luster here a LONG time ago and right now, the GC and PS2 are getting ports and lesser titles. Xbox is getting the good shit</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>2 hours? That's how long each GAME used to take me with default settings. After 2 hours it's just a crazy-ass driving game. You didn't even get into the strategy behind it</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Their loss. The mulitple passengers and hop really change the strategy of the game, not to mention how crazy the city is; you REALLY have to learn the layout.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Lost its luster coz it was on lesser consoles. Now that its on PS2, it will be bigger than Crazy Taxi 3. And yer right, Xbox does get shit. =8^D</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I guess that would explain why it also lost its luster in the arcades?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Around here, there were only two or three compared to the platoon of Capcom and NAMCO arcade fighters.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey hey, don't mind G-Man... he's just, you know, getting a little old. Alzheimers has made him forget exactly how good Crazy Taxi is. :)</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>VF was always first and foremost a Japanese phenomenon. It never was all that popular in the states.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I have Crazy Taxi. It was fun for like two days. I wish I rented it instead.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I still think that had partly to due with the platforms they were on. Saturn and Dreamcast titles had to compete with PSX games. But, we'll see how VF4 will fare now that it's on PS2(30 million world wide).</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>It has nothing to do with consoles. The Virtua Fighter games are primarily ARCADE games, remember? When's the last time you saw a crowd of people gathered around a VF console here in the U.S.?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Like Tekken and Street Fighter 2 are primarily console games? I think the popularity of the PSX helped Tekken in the arcades. Especially when Tekken 3 for the arcade came out, so many had played Tekken 2 on PSX, it was a success before it was out.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>And that, I believe, eclipsed VF3 at the arcades. Now that VF4 is on PS2....we'll see how many Tekken fans will feel about VF.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>The only reason Tekken and its sequels were ported to the PSX in the first place is because they were popular arcade games. There was probably some small reciprocal benefit for the arcades, sure, but make no mistake, the arcade games laid the groundwork first. Tekken 3 for the arcade wasn't made just because Tekken 2 on console sold well; it was made because the Tekken series was, and continues to be, a popular arcade series. Although, considering that the U.S. arcade business has been in a horrible slump for the past five or so years, that paradigm may have changed.

And what are you talking about, "Street Fighter 2 is primarily a console game?" You must be joking. Street Fighter 2 was a mega-hit in the arcades long, long before it either the SNES or Genesis. It's what put Capcom on the map.</div>

[Mr.Person]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>To be honest with you...., Sony has VF4 from Sega, and that's the only Sega franchise which matters other than Sonic. Xbox can keep the Smilebit/Hitmaker/WOW games, most of them are pretty niche anyway.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>VF was eclipsed in the arcades long before Tekken 3 came out. Like I said, it's a Japanese thing. (Btw, I personally loathe Tekken. Virtua Fighter is ten times better.)</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Skies of Arcadia 2 was announced for Gamecube at Spaceworld. I haven't been online much lately, so I haven't heard of any other consoles it's coming to yet</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Exactly. It was Tekken's arcade popularity that made it a big hit in the arcades, period</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Exactly. It was Tekken's arcade popularity that made it a big hit on consoles, period</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Read below</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I liked PD2 quite a bit.

Let's see, that's...

<u>Xbox</u>
Panzer Dragoon 4
Crazy Taxi 3
House of the Dead 3
Jet Grind Radio 2
Shenmue 2&3 (although I already have 2)
Possible port of Skies of Arcadia or SoA2
New stuff from Hitmaker & Smilebit

<u>PS2</u>
Virtua Fighter 4
Port of Skies of Arcadia, possibly SoA2 as well


Goddamn you, Microsoft. Gonna have to buy one of your monstrosities at some point.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Tekken fans, in general, hate VF. It's always been that way. Tekken's mash-fest controls and 10-hit preset combos were an alternative to VF's more complicated style.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Period? Not etirely accurate. But who cares. As long as I get VF4.</div>

[S.Cody2]

<div style='font: 10pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Wasn't your high score approximately $30,000?</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Please explain why it's not accurate.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Since when have you been this huge VF fan? I've never heard you say a word about the series. If Chu Chu Rocket 2 were coming to the PS2 instead of VF, you'd probably be hyping it up just the same.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Since I had VF2 on Saturn. And as for Zeus's "Period" comment, I already explained PSX helped with Tekken's popularity. Sheesh....you think there's an arcade in every community in America and the world? Never played Grandia, so not much hype from me. Sorry Lotus. Maybe on the next thread, just 4 U.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Of course the PSX helped Tekken's popularity...on the PSX. But I don't think it inspired multitudes of people who hadn't been in an arcade in five years to rush out and play Tekken at the arcade.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Anybody who gets $30k in their first two hours is pretty good.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I'm playing Grandia II on my DC, bitch, and those consoles only cost $50!</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I have a DC as well. And I'm planning on getting Grandia 2 from the used section.....byatch!</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's $20 brand new for crying out loud</div>