PS2 games beginning to look better and better. Here's WRC2.

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.gamefaction.com/playstation2 ... nship2/</a>

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[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I've noticed that's been a trend on almost every system that's ever been released "Games begin to look better and better" =)</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>True...except for N64.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, because everyone knows Shadows of the Empire looked as good as Zelda Ocarina of Time, and then Perfect Dark after that. PS your link is broken</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, because everyone knows Shadows of the Empire looked as good as Zelda Ocarina of Time, and then Perfect Dark after that. I'll add that your link is broken.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Actually, they looked the same. I have those games still.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I'm with Seeker on this one.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Just one completely unrelated question, did you lick Venetian blinds as a kid? =)</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I recall Shadows of the Empire, some stages looked good and other looked pretty bad. Yet...Zelda and Perfect Dark weren't too much of a leap compared to PSX's Jumpin' Flash to Gran Turismo 2. Must be a Canadian thing. =8^P</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Look at Conker, then look at Mario 64. Look at Perfect Dark, then look at Turok. MUCH better later in the life</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Now how's about we compare similar games. Comparing a driving game to a platformer is silly</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Very pretty, but I want to see what the in-game graphics in gameplay are like, not what the replays are like.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>We're comparing Graphics....not genres. Sheesh.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>...let alone Perfect Dark which blows both games out of the water graphically.

Licking the Venetian Blinds must be a G-man thing =)</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Look who's talking - an alcoholic Canadian.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Your point? =)</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Oh yeah, we all know it's just as easy to have great graphics in a 3D action-platformer as it is in a survival horror game. Think man!</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>You have a very bad memory. Wild ARMs' 5 polygon characters got on my nerves (despite being a good game), compared to Xenogears, which had a great mixture of 2D and 3D graphics. Comparing FF9 isn't fair (SD GFX), but FF8 was MUCH better than FF7.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>And Doom 1 looked like the shit, until you play it five years later. Graphics look the same until you play something better.</div>

[Nev]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>JUMPING FLASH? That rabbit was a Campell's soup can with legs and no label. I liked that game as much as you did but please, I could wireframe the level geometry with a big box of toothpicks and a pack of Bubblicious.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Read what you just typed. And think about that.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I read, I thought, and I concluded the same thing. Now tell me why you think I'm wrong</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>So by the G-man logic, the graphics on PSX actually went downhill after FF8 =)</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Thinking can be a problem for G-man, it's a shame they didn't have the warnings on the Venetian blinds when he was a kid..... =)</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Do you think it may have something to do with the fact that Jumping Flash's developers just plain sucked in the graphics department compared to 989?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>"Comparing graphics not genres" A racing game should be just as graphically detailed as a platformer anyway.</div>

[Nev]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Ahhh...I see. You DID think Jumping Flash's graphics weren't very good. Okay. But remember also that the first PSX games were some of the FIRST fully 3D games ever. The N64 came later after many improvements to 3D in general had been made.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>See, people? This is what alcohol can do to your brain. But then again, Prince Edward Island is known for inbreeding.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>We're talking about you G-man, apparently you aren't aware that some graphics development departments are better than others, sometimes more money is put into graphics development. As for inbreeding, that's South Central United States your thinking of, aren't you from there?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>We're talking about you G-man, apparently you aren't aware that some graphics development departments are better than others, sometimes more money is put into graphics development. As for inbreeding, that's the Central United States your thinking of, aren't you from there?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Seriously. If you look at the improvements of the PSX games from 1995 to 1997, it was quite obvious. N64s were always better than PSX....but they didn't get MUCH better well from its debut.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Seriously. If you look at the graphical improvements of the PSX games from 1995 to 1997, it was quite obvious. N64s graphics were mostly better than PSX....but they didn't get MUCH better well from its debut.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Seriously. If you look at the graphical improvements of the PSX games from 1995 to 1997, it was quite obvious. N64s graphics were mostly better than PSX....but they didn't get MUCH better from its debut.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Almost all PSX games before 1997 were rushed and low budget as well as most major develpers were still focused on the SNES until late 1996, Nintendo's launch titles were all very high budget games except for perhaps Cruisin USA which had by far the worst graphics.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's MUCH more difficult to make the graphics in a platformer as detailed and hi-res as a racing game 'cause in a racing game, you can cheat a little more, make static backgrounds or use sprites for the stuff that whiss by, whereas in a platformer, it's all about textures and polygons, much more so than a platformer. Why do you think the racing games looked good MUCH quicker than platformers?

Take a more extreme case of say, Resident Evil vs Spyro. There's a reason RE was far more detailed (aside from the characer models). Static backgrounds allowed for a nice, hi-res texture in RE where in Spyro, the developers couldn't control what the player was gonna see at any given time, so they had to make it completely 3D, taking a bigger hit on the processor (MUCH bigger), hence the lower detail to keep the framerate up

You just can't compare different genres to each other, the process of making the games and the variables involved, particularly in graphics, are much different. That's why Rogue Leader and Halo are much more impressive graphically than Resident Evil for Gamecube, just 'cause it takes so much more to make those two look so damned good (I'm not saying RE doesn't look good - it looks incredible)</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Fine...compare Jumping Flash to Spyro. The graphical jump between those two games are quite enormous. The graphical jump between Mario64 and Perfect Dark ain't so much. Hence...they look pretty much the same. But that's N64 for ya.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Compare more like Zelda to Mario, both 3D worlds. Huge jump</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>More like a skip. =8^)</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Only by artistic standards, but the GFX engine, etc. was great. On that note, Chrono Cross is probably the best looking game on the PSX.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>And as much as they tweaked the graphics of 3D, they still didn't work on the problems of the gameplay engine itself.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Cruisin' USA to Beattle Adventure Racing.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Teh creator said that the replays are the same as the ingame. Just like WRC was.</div>

[Nev]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Beatle Adventure Racing?</div>