What's the verdict on Timesplitters 2? My housemates and I have been looking for a good multiplayer Gamecube FPS.

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Incidentally, there's too many games to buy. I still want Monkey Ball 2, probably Timesplitters 2, Starfox Adventures, and RE:Zero and Metroid Prime are both coming out in the next two weeks. Heh.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Moneky Ball 2 is awesome, Timesplitters 2, if you liked Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, you will like this game, it is made by mostly the same development team.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>teh only flaw is the lack of a jump button....other than that I havn't had this much fun with a game in foeva</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Wasn't that Rare?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>They left Rare</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Apparently it's kick-ass, the spiritually successor to PD</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Fuck the lack of a jump button, 007 didn't have it and it smoked. TS is super fun.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I'd like to try that too. Though I'm not looking forward to using the C-stick for dual-stick controls (MOH, Red Faction, Halo, etc.).</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It took me forever to get used to it on Bond, probably about 5-10 hours of its crappy multiplayer, the C-buttons were much easier.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Microsoft bought the wrong company then! BWAHAHAHA!</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>you did here me say the only flaw whatsoever right</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It's not a part of the Gameplay, there aren't any jump buttons in Final Fantasy III are there?</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You're telling me you couldn't possibly have found a better example to use than a 2D RPG?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It wouldn't have mattered what I used, if it were Skies of Arcadia, Pacman, or Goldeneye instead, I was talking about jumping not being a part of the gameplay.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Jumping is found in most first person shooters, so its absence is actually notable. That's the point.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I repeat, it is NOT a part of the gameplay, it doesn't matter what other FPS have them, those other FPS's have a different style of gameplay and they mostly all suck compared to GE007, PD, and TS2 anyways.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Excuse me for my uncalled for outburst =)</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Huh? It's not in Doom, and I don't think it's in Quake, or Unreal Tourney. What the hell are you talking about?</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Exactly.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You must not play many FPS games if you think they don't feature jumping.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>yeah tort, I can't help laughing at the it's not in quake or ut comment</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>You can jump in Doom.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>You can jump in Doom? What's the button?</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Doom, no, virtually every PC FPS since 1996, yes. Don't talk out of your ass.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Maybe you can. God, has it been that long since I played a FPS?</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>No maybe about it.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>In unofficially updated versions of Doom, (like Doom Legacy), yes you can jump. But you can't jump in the original.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Well, I guess I meant DoomII. I recall my space bar being used a lot to jump from one level to another.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, cuz I remember jumping in Quake 2. I haven't touched a FPS in a while (besides one day on the UT 2003 demo).</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Nope. Far as I know, there isn't a single official version of Doom that allows you to jump (excepting the upcoming DoomIII).</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>You're wrong here. Doom II allowed you to jump.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I seriously doubt it. I don't remember jumping, and I don't remember the engine changing much at all.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I looked up a few things on google. All said you couldn't jump in Doom II. Sure you were playing the official thing?</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Nope. Doom II was the exact same engine with some new levels, monsters, and one new gun.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I swear I could! There were a few places that needed you to jump. The jump doesn't do anything to avoid enemies but just to get to one level. I'm serious!</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The only so called "jump" is when you'd run fast over a ledge onto another ledge. It had to be done in the second level of DoomII and was needed to get a few secrets in other levels. That's probably what you're thinking of.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Yep. What else could you call it? =8^) A skip?</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Not to say I can't use dual-stick controls, I can. Just that the C-Stick doesn't have much surface area for the thumb.</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Heh, I rather like the idea of calling it a skip myself. :)</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>It's designed for 4-year-old kids. (Though, I'll admit that it's a lot better than the N64 half-stick.)</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>It's called falling.</div>