OK, so who here is getting Metroid when it comes out in 9 days? Are you getting Prime, Fusion, or both?

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>OK, so who here is getting Metroid when it comes out in 9 days? Are you getting Prime, Fusion, or both?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Both, and Resident Evil 0 on Tuesday as well.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Just Prime. Have no GBA.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>No time for GBA lately, but I do want Fusion. I'll rent Prime first, but can't buy until probably Christmas. Too wrapped up in VC right now.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'd like Prime but I don't have the time between Vice City, Kingdom Hearts, and I'd love to eventually finish FFX. :)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>If I had the time and either system, I'd be there.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Get it, then.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>GBA is a great, great system</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That one I'll get used. Capcom's stuff is ALWAYS cheaper used than anything else</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Prime. I can't afford a GBA plus a game right now.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Time and money.</div>

[Judgment 1999]

<div style='font: 14pt ; text-align: left; '>I'll pick up Fusion I suppose. Can't afford a Cube right now so Prime will have to wait a while.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>And one I wouldn't get use out of.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Of course, it's a factor for everyone. Rental maybe? From everything I hear, Prime is just one of those games you don't want to miss out on</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Fair enough.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Does Blockbuster rent GameCubes? I want to play Metroid, but if anything, Zelda is what would cause me to buy one.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, I wasn't really a fan of the SNES game, but I loved the first one when I was a kid, and I still play the second one for GB. I'm definetly picking up Fusion. Prime, that game looks impossibly awesome, so I'm definetly picking it up.</div>

[Sephy]

<div style='font: 12pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I will most likely be getting Prime, but the more I see it, the more the FPS view pisses me off. I hate console FPS....</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Metroid Prime actually looks good, from the few minutes I played on it. I just hope they didn't ruin the genre by making it an FPS.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>First person view does not equal FPS</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They should. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. They and Nintendo are tight, hence the "Blockbuster-only rentals"</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>You didn't like the SNES Metriod? What the flying fuck is wrong with you?!</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>True, but it is technically a "first person shooter".</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://cube.ign.com/articles/376/376769p1.html">woot</a>

For what it's worth, three separate IGN editors were floored by Prime. Sounds very, very promising.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Like if I take a piece of chocolate and heat it up, that's not "hot chocolate," although it is hot chocolate. Sometimes descriptions of things become a noun.

This is all pure semantics, but I've actually thought about it before.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, but IGN are proven Nintendo dicksuckers. I'm not saying that the game won't be really good, but at least quote a source that isn't akin to Nintendo Power magazine.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I give you that. But does that mean Goldeneye or Duke Nukem isn't a FPS because it features strategy or "adventure"? What exactly is a FPS any more?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I don't have time for a GameCube, I can't afford a GameCube, I don't have time for a GameCube, I can't afford a GameCube, I don't have time for a GameCube, I can't afford a GameCube, I don't have time for a GameCube, I can't afford a GameCube, I don't have time for a GameCube...</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Genres aren't precise things, so we can be pick and choose upon sublte (or not so subtle) aspects of a game to decide where it fits.</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Aw, go on. Metroid! Mario! Zelda! The goodness! THE GOODNESS!</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>No, it's not. It just has a first-person view. FPSs are a very particular type of genre</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>You evil, evil man!</div>

[kali o.]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>If Halo is a FPS, so is Metroid.

First-person view + Shooting things = First Person Shooter.

It's not complicated and it's not a bad thing....

Baaaaa....

KO-</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I always thought of it as a first person view of Pong.....only you wanna avoid the pongs. =8^D</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Making chocolate hot does not make it hot chocolate.</div>

[kali o.]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That a game doesn't have to fit snuggly within it's general genre to be placed there!?

That Hot chocolate does not just equal heated chocolate...

That First-person shooter does not just equal shooting things from a first person view...

You must've just agreed with me...otherwise, you win the award for stupidest and most improperly used analogy EVER!!

KO-</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Speaking of amazing GC games, the remake of Resident Evil is incredible, and I'm refer to the whole game, not just the graphics. Aside from the controls, everything was improved upon. I loved the original when I played it 5 years ago and I'm loving this one. A definite must-have</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>So, only Might & Magic and Wizardry can have the first-person POV and NOT be FPSs?</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'd only played RE2 and RE:CV (briefly), and the RE remake was incredible. It's only the fact that I've bought too many GC games lately (and Metroid next week) that's stopping me from getting RE Zero tomorrow.</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Incidentally, I found the controls to be VASTLY improved, if you changed to Type C. Your character still turns like a tank, but they can both turn and run very easily...it's a tremendous improvement over classic RE movement.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>See, I don't need to hear this. I've almost decided that eventually (perhaps over winter break), I'm going to have to get a GC.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>"Hot chocolate" is a hot drink that (at least) taste like some sort of chocolate. Heating up a stick of chocolate, while it can be described as hot chocolate, does not fit what we normally call "hot chocolate." Hence, we don't call it "hot chocolate" because that would be confusing - or, if we do, it is understood that we do not mean a hot drink that tastes like chocolate.

Likewise, a "first person shooter" is a particualr genre, and just because a game can be described as a game in which you shoot things from the first person, doesn't mean it's a "first person shooter." I think the analogy fits quite nicely, and I'm not sure how you're interpreting it.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The default set up is fine from a button placement point of view. It's more the reaction time and "stiffness" that gets me. But for a survival horror game, it doesn't bother me that much. It's just that the rest of the game is so incredible and you have stiff controls to go with it</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Capcom games are always plentiful and cheaper than most when it comes to used. Just wait until Jan or Feb and you'll get it at half the price</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey, we haven't even started. I haven't told you about Rogue Leader, Pikmin, or Eternal Darkness, more must-haves. Like with the 64, the 'Cube has a lot of AAA titles, except this time, they seem to have a lot of A titles to go with it .There's at least 10 other pretty good games too</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>MGS2 could be in FPS mode too. That doesn't make it a FPS. Just like melted chocolate isn't the same as hot chocolate. =8^) I still like my Pong anology the best. You guys suck. =8P</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's not the button placement - it's that with Type C you can turn and move forward/backward at the same time, which I always had tremendous problems with in the other games. It just feels so intuitive.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I agree completely, there are just no controls that beat these. As I said some months below, Type C controls are the only way to go.</div>

[kali o.]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Do you even know what a FPS is? Go ahead and define it for me...

Then define Metroid and where you believe it fits...

-Does it use 1st person POV?
-Do you shoot things?
-Do you have lots of different weapons?
-Is your arrcuracy and damage decided by fixed amounts, not D&D-type rolls?

I've seen the Metroid trailers, I know what its about. I've also read an EGM interview where what's-his-name-famous-jap-producer admitted Metroid sound like an FPS (he's never played one before) but his marketing team told him to push FPA (or something like that).

Baaa...baaaaa...

Baaaaa....

And your analogy...any way you slice it...was downright stupid.

I love you, Fact-boy.

KO-</div>

[kali o.]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I thought it was better than Kupek's....Popping ears of corn does not make popcorn...blah, blah, blah.... ; )</div>