Well that was quick...

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2003/11/12/technol ... es">stupid N-gage</a>

Well that was quick...</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Yay. Now I can get my $450 version of Pong for free. Oh wait...I still have to pay $400 for the piece of shit phone-that-wants-to-be-a-portable.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Not quite that much. Right now, it's $300 Cdn with 3 games..</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Still a waste of money.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Actually it's an awesome deal, for 300 bucks (200 USD) you get a handheld game system superior (104 Mhz) to the GBASP (like the GBA SP it comes with a battery pack) with games like Splinter Cell, Virtua Tennis, EA sports titles, etc..; a portable MP3 player and radio, and a high end cell phone</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You do realize it's only a decent cell phone, takes about a minute to change games (you have to disassemble it), about 30 seconds to boot a game, and has a horrible games selection? There's a reason the GB always won even though it was the inferior system technically</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't disagree, I was just pointing out the price dro</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I checked the line-up (and future line-up) and it just doesn't look that appealing for $200 when I get a cell phone for free and can get an MP3 player for $50 (I did).</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's better than the GBA. Uh, OK</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That's what I said didn't I? It's graphics and sound capabilities are superior.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Also, its game selection is fairly decent for a brand new product with no real reputation yet.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>*sigh* Yes, because that is the sole marker of a better system. That doesn't mean anything if there are no interesting games for it (and I haven't seen any or heard of any coming out that are)</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>We'll see how it does. If they can get some must-have games, it could do very well. And that is good for a non-gaming company.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It sold 5000 in its first week in North America, and not much better in Europe. There's a reason there's been a major price drop 3 weeks after release (and that includes packaging it with games). It's been an incredible disappointment. I have no clue where you got your numbers from</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Try one, and ask them to change games for you, then you'll never want one. It's the worst design EVER</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I agree there. Taking the battery out to change games is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's all? hehe...that's funny.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><img src="http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20031101.jpg">

this might convince people like Seeker...but either way it sucks :P</div>

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm bowing out of this discussion...now.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, Seek</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, Seek's numbers are always suspect. The numbers I gave were from the major sites</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Same with the Lynx, Nomad, Game Gear, and Turbo Express</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>No shit holmes.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Do you just purposely make up numbers to inflate your argument? After all, the GBA has already sold 950 million units in America alone, so there!</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://ngage.ign.com/articles/456/45613 ... p1.html</a>

If you have no idea where I got my numbers from, then you have not yet read Nokia's announcement which is posted on ngage.ign.com</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Actually, the GBASP has superior capabilities in comparisson to the Nomad and the Game Gear, I have not heard of the others you mentioned.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I really have no idea what you are talking about. The only sources I have ever used for anything are NPD (TRSTS), PGC, IGN, and magicbox (Dengeki). Those sites are always relatively accurate.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Those numbers were reported by Nokia and are posted on ngage.ign.com. As I recall, you were the one who stated the Ngage was $450 to further your argument, which is more than twice as much as it actually costs.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That's pretty fucking lame, but then again, you are a moron.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm mostly interested to see what Sega releases for it. I generally try to get everything released by them. There are a few titles I have skipped on in the past though mainly because they were ridiculous game concepts that didn't entertain.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to its launch with baited breath. That was the last price I heard about from PA (during E3), I believe. BTW, "The figure of 400,000 represents the total N-Gage units sold to retailers, and does not represent the total number of units sold to consumers."</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Who cares if the SP is more powerful than a Game Gear? The GG was out with the original Gameboy and it still lost. Compared the original Gameboy it had superior abilities because that doesn't automatically equal success.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>And yes, I have tried it and it does suck more ass than if you locked seeker and Ish in a closet for a month straight</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Bwahahaha</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Also what's all this talk about Ish's closet? Last I heard you were still inside debating on whether to come out or not.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>>Who cares if the SP is more powerful than a Game Gear? The poster of the message who incorrectly stated that the Gamegear was more powerful than the GBASP, it's not difficult to figure that much out now is it?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Ummm, it's simple to figure out that Zeus was refering those systems to the GameBoy's previous incarnations....focus man.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6 ... 84.html</a>

Support, for those interested.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think it was pretty obvious what Zeus meant, especially considering we know his style of posting. That still doesn't change my overall point though either.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Dear Lord, boy, think...those systems all came out 10 years ago, when the old GB was a calculator with a screen.....</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>You're talking sold, I'm talking sell-through...HUGE difference, and my numbers actually mean something</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Oh, BTW, it's not CA$300. It's US$300. So, I wasn't far off with the $400 price tag.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Heh...all the proof I need is the "N-Gage < Britney Spears' Game" argument.</div>