It's official: Playstation remodel (NOT called the PSTwo) is coming out on Nov 1 for the same price, replacing the original PS2. And the DS is coming out on Nov 21 at $150 US, which is $50 less than most thought and roughly half the expected price point o

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's official: Playstation remodel (NOT called the PSTwo) is coming out on Nov 1 for the same price, replacing the original PS2. And the DS is coming out on Nov 21 at $150 US, which is $50 less than most thought and roughly half the expected price point of the PSP (they need to come out at $200 now)</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Does anybody else find it funny that the DS itself is coming out the 21st but the first games won't be out until March 1, 2005?</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>what? No games for DS till March? Does that mean it's backwards compatible...but then why would people buy it?</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Compatible with GBA games, wireless chat. And I REALLY doubt they won't release any games for 4 months...</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well I'd love to see a game considering the system is less then 2 months away!</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I noticed that on EBGames.com. Really, why would anyone buy it at release if there are no DS-specific games, unless they don't already have an SP?</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Lovely...trying to raise the price on the standard portable unit AGAIN. As it is, consoles are damn near the same price as computer systems.</div>

[Resin]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Forgive me but... what are you talking about?</div>

[Resin]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, now that I think of it, there was an instance in which this actually happened... but I somehow doubt Nintendo will repeat the same mistake 3d0 made.

BTW, those aren't official release dates from the publisher but merely educated guesses made by the retailer.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>relax it's just sine...he doesn't always know what he is talking about :p</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>you also can't forget that all the GBA games work for it....</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's the only reason anyone would buy one if there were no games at launch (and only if they didn't already own an Advance)</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, that's exactly why I can't believe there won't be any games at launch. You'd think if they announced the official release date of the DS, they'd tell us what games were coming out with it.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>or SP</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Wait 'til the PSP comes out</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>...or they like the wireless chat thing and they know 4 others getting it (not likely). I think it's just a matter of no official announcment of date changes for the games, that's all</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Evidently hype isn't a concern for the launching of this system. :P</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's gotten enough in the press and with retailers, that's what Nintendo does here. They don't really hype in terms of public marketing 'til no earlier than a month before the launch. A little primitive, but that's their way...</div>