Question, For those who do not have an unusual interest in the plot of Final Fantasy 1, what makes 9 better than 7?

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I loved FFVIII. I forget one thing though. if you got to level 99 how much HP did ultimecia have. my god it's in inordianately large amount.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Of course like 30 of the posts are just me and Eric in a Tennis match, but you get the point =P</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It so totally didn't matter because Squall owned her with Lion Heart regardless.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>FF8's system encourages you to not level because the stat bonus from Junction is fixed. Ultimecia is easier at level 1 than level 99, though Meltdown + Spd-J is all you need in FF8, even if you never bothered to get stuff like Lionheart.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>the 'class' like path in FF10 is pointless because if you go Yuna or Lulu's path you end up with never having enough HP to survive any heavy melee bosses if you fall behind on the sphere grid, not to mention spells don't come close to melee damage until you get Holy</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>she's got some HP level that's so mindbogglingly huge at level 99 even lionheart takes forever to kill her</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>In all four forms, on level 99 she has 2 million HP, on level 1 she has about 700K.</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>Yeah, i melted through that game when i replayed it without hardly lvl'ing at all. I didnt remember it being so easy the first time through.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>...and FF 1, 4, 6, 9 and Chrono Cross....</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But Locke or Cid weren't the best at everything....</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>This is my experience of FF7 after Aeris died: "OK, now I need a healer, so let's try this heal Materia on any character other than Cloud...not bad...put it on Cloud...yep, he's the best". Repeat with all the materia in the game.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Ish! That's a figure of speech! Leave Stephen's pants alone...</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I'm not arguing that. But at least the fighters in FF6 had unique abilities.</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>While spd-J was helpful, i didnt feel as if it increased my attack rate all THAT much. I mean, it didnt instantly turn my chars all into XG Citan or anything. I think the most useful were the basic str-J and HP-J.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It increased it alot, trust me.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>But they're not really that different from FF VII's limit breaks. In some cases, they're exactly the same. Cait Sith and Setzer both had that "Slots" option.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>why compare them though. you can use slot every turn if you want. you can't use it with cait sith every turn.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm comparing them because they're the only non-aesthetic feature in both games that distinguish one character from another. A skill set is a skill set regardless of how often you can use it.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I do agree that the esper system allowed you to give them all the same spells however it also had the unique ferature of levelling differently depending on which esper is equipped. I really liked that.actually I think I may start playing it again noe....damn you fuck asses</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>At the same time that's all fine and dandy but some of those classes just sucked, ie, Realm, Strago.</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>In 6 if you had three guys who could use swords in your party then you really had to think who you wanted to have what.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Spd junction is huge in combination with haste, Meltdown pretty much obliterates anything that it works on, which is just about everything, including Ultimecia.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't remember she had that much HP. I don't remember any of her form surviving more than one Lionhearts.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If you have Cure 3 and Life, you can win with any combination of characters, but characters who can use big swords (terra/edge/celes/) are just stronger.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Atma Weapon, Illumina, and the third person doesn't matter because the first two will be doing 9999 per hit and kill any boss in 4 rounds (less if you use Offering/Quick).</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>nah it was all about the gem box economizer ultima quick trick....neverending combo</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Gau was pretty terrible, too.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't think you can X Magic Quick... I remember trying that before.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Play the game again without using espers, and tell me Strago sucks.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Well, FF6 had the same problem with the Espers and CC was basically just an upgraded materia system, but yeah</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>That's a pretty big handicap to take just to make one character useful.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Like I said before, it wasn't a prob with FF6 'cause Locke or Cid weren't the best at EVERYTHING. The materia system would have be great if they refined it a bit</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well, yeah, because all the characters in FF VI were just about equally good in everything. You trade one superior character for twelve characters who are the same at everything.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Well, considering that Espers were fucking cheap in that game, I don't see why not.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>???</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>lol, what Stephen said.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm fairly sure BL is referring to using the Espers to get magic, not the summons...I mean I barely-if ever-used the summons.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Palidor (everyone jump) was the only one that was actually worth using. Everything else does less damage than just casting a spell except Crusader but it hits your own guys too</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>I'm talking about magic. Everybody learns it, and learns it fairly quickly. Not to mention the easy to get Ultima/Meteor.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Ha fucking ha. Seriously, the game is better when you don't use espers.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I don't think that's the impression the game wants you to have, but if you're right, then that's a huge design flaw.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>This is great. Apparently, one of FF VI's biggest features is actually one of its biggest flaws. I'm glad that we're all taking shots at one of the most overrated RPGs of all time. Keep it coming, fellows!</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Make no mistake about it, FF6 is The One RPG To Rule Them All</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I agree with Stephen. The FF series in general is extremely overrated (except FFT). Chrono Trigger is way better.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>CT and CC are among my fav RPGs as well, but that doesnt' mean that FF6 and FF9 (and to a very slightly lesser degree, FF4) are any less great</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>A Tolkien analogy, oh, boy, you've really brought out the big guns for this one. I... I don't know how to respond! ;-)</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Actually, I dislike both FF VI and CT equally, but this is no time to alienate my allies. Carry on!</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>A Tolkien analogy! Oh, boy, you've really brought out the big guns this time. I am defeated.</div>

[Nixon]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Pansies. I made Ultemicia my bitch without Lion Heart.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>CT has better music and graphics. I've long given up any game would have good story or gameplay.</div>