Great news. Indiana Jones 4 will be Steven Spielberg's next project! Woohoo!

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.canoe.ca/JamMovies/jan21_jon ... an.html</a>

Great news. Indiana Jones 4 will be Steven Spielberg's next project! Woohoo!</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Indiana Jones is over. Star Wars is over. A dead moose won't walk again no matter how many times you stab it with a stick.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Starwars Episode 1 in theatres a couple of years ago sold 925 million at the Boxoffice, the second best selling movie of all time (including ticket price inflation), how is it dead? Personally, I never liked the first 3 and I didn't really think much about Starwars or even mention it until Episode 1</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Star Wars IS dead, creatively at least. Episode I was a turd.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>And therefore takes after the first 3 which were also all crap.</div>

[S.Cody2]

<div style='font: 10pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>What if it's a South American Shaman's life-bringing stick?</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>*tears coming out of eyes* You take that back! You're the one who's dead! Dead inside! *runs off sobbing*</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>You call The Empire Strikes Back crap one more time and so help me god.....</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Sorry, Ish. I completely forgot about your late moose lover</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You can file the first three films under whatever scatological heading you want, but in terms of sheer, absolute crap, Episode I needs its own category. Like Crap+, or Neocrap.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Crap+ has its charms. (Probably because I'm replaying Chrono Trigger.)</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Well, of course it's still a moneymaker - otherwise this conversation wouldn't have to exist. The problem is that Episode 1 and IJ 4 are nothing BUT moneymakers. The SW and IJ trilogies were movie events in themselves. Their time is over. These new films are just playing on nostalgia value</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Show me some evidence to back your claim. Episode 1 is actually better in absolutly every way than the orriginal Starwars movies, and it also obviously made a larger impact as its boxoffice sales were much higher than the orriginal 3, as were its merchandise sales.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Wow... not that I agree with Gentz, but wow.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Okay. JAR-JAR BINKS. I don't care what kind of argument you've got, Jar-Jar's presence alone utterly destroys it. I could also name the wretched dialogue and that little pedophile-bait who plays Anakin, but that would just be making the rubble bounce.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>When I say that Star Wars is dead I'm not saying that no one wants to see it anymore or that it won't make money anymore. I'm saying that the cinematic event that was Star Wars has ended. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. That is the Star Wars trilogy. It was established as such in the minds of all Star Wars fans. Going further with the series only cheapens it. Episodes 1-3 can never stand alone as an event in themselves. They will always be "the prequel to the Trilogy" because they are being released simply to play off the pre-established SW fanbase.

It's basically just an argument against sequels, only I'm dealing with IJ4 and the new Star Wars as sequels to an already established <i>series</I> of movies rather than singular titles.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Pedophile-bait, just making the rubble bounce - I like your style.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Someone had to do it. I mean, "Episode I is better in every way from the original Star Wars movies." Really, sometimes a matter of opinion becomes a matter of fact.</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>He's just trolling. Either that or he's incredibly stupid. Or both. Take your pick.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Yeah. The new ones are certainly more up-to-date as far as sfx goes, but when it comes to actual substance - well, there are obvious reasons why Episode 1 wasn't the first SW they released</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I honestly don't know what Internet people have against Jar Jar when the other Starwars movies had the Droids, that giant dog thing, and those muppets that were all over the place on Jabba the Huts planet.


Obvious points: Liam Neison and Natalie Portman sure as hell did a better job than whoever the hell they had playing Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. The Sound Effects and music score in Episode 1 were far better, as were the Visual effects of the film. The Cinematography in the orriginal Starwars movie was crap, Episode 1 had excellent Cinematography.

All in all, by todays standards, the orriginal Starwars trilogy is an extremely poorly done movie. Even ten years ago when I attempted to watch them the first time, I could not stay awake past the first 20 minutes of any of the 3 films. Episode 1 sold better at the Boxoffice and had record breaking merchandise sales, so OBVIOUSLY it had a larger fanbase than the orriginal movie. I'll just add that the rereleases of the orriginal films with all new scenes and updated visuals didn't do very well at the boxoffice.

The rants and raves of a few thousand balding fatass Internet geeks isn't going to change any of the facts.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>You sure like to use that word "stupid" a lot, I guess you heard it quite a bit from your parents growing up, I don't blame them, I mean, at your age and STILL drawing like a 4 year old. Unless you actually drew that picture you use as a signature when you were 4 years old</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Good to see that you still can't make a coherant and intelligent flame. And how many tries at posting did you have before you left this one up? 3? 4?</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Once, there's no childish whiner Mod deleting them everytime. And speaking of Children, what exactly IS that kid doing to that queer looking Sonic the Hedgehog thing in that picture of yours? Is it an artistic approach at your sexual fantasies?</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Oh and I suppose it took you just one try all for all your lame insults in Animetion too? Yeah right. And you still can't manage to put together a flame that's actually insulting anyway. Bravo.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>No childish whiner mod at M&M? Ha! Think again!</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>The reason it made more money is exactly as I was saying before. The Star Wars Trilogy had reached the status of legendary film series long before Episode 1 came out. Of course it's going to make more money than the original films. That's the very reason why they're releasing the new ones. Not because they're good necessarily, but because every SW fan that emerged during the establishment of the original Trilogy wants to see them and will pay large amounts of money in order to see them.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Are you finished crying yet?</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, all of what you are saying is true, but that doesn't nessissarilly mean the film series is dead. When the next Jurrassic Park movie bombs, you will see a dead film series</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Continuing the streak of completely random and stupid flames that manage to not be insulting in any way shape or form we have...Seeker! Thanks for playing. Go buy a clue and try again.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Leave Bullwinkle out of this, you callous bastard!</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'm a little unclear... do you two not like each other?</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>I like Seeker just fine. He and his antics amuse me.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I was being facetious, but I just realized that wasn't clear in how I said it.</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>I realised that. I was just being a smart ass.</div>

[Oracle]

<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Freak</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Canadian</div>

[S.Cody2]

<div style='font: 10pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Wayne Newton</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Pat Buchannan</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Daaaaaaaamn!</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Brendan Byrd</div>