Hmmm, I just watched Starwars and most of Starwars the Emprie Strikes back, I don't think I'll ever see where people can get off saying these are better than the new flicks, let alone the best movies ever made. Of course I was falling asleep almost every

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Hmmm, I just watched Starwars and most of Starwars the Emprie Strikes back, I don't think I'll ever see where people can get off saying these are better than the new flicks, let alone the best movies ever made. Of course I was falling asleep almost every 10 minutes after about a half hour.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Acting. Compare Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher from Empire to Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman. It's almost embarassing.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>It's because most of us grew up with them. We tend to become biased in favor of our childhood movies.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Say it with me: George Lucas can not write; George Lucas can not direct.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>But all things considered, I think that if you take away all the legendary status and nostalgia value afforded to the original trilogy you're left with three decent, but extremely overrated movies.

I'm a big scifi/fantasy fan and I do like Star Wars, but I really don't think the Trilogy is as spectacular as it's often made out to be. The first three definitely beat Phantom Menace in my book, but Attack of the Clones is still my favorite so far.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Well....it's more entertaining to see the swash buckling space pirate like Han Solo hit on a Princess. Hayden had to act as an immature celibate space samurai....somewhat hard to do. Anyway, he looked to scrawny. Should have gotten a buff stud like me to make out with Natalie! =8^D</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I have many friends who refuse to even consider that fact.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Not quite true. A lot of kids today think Episode 4 was better. And they saw it on VHS.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I have many friends who refuse to even consider that fact.</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>At your age? She might as well be making out with Yoda.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>MWHAHAHA! I still get carded for drinks. I could steal your girl friend (if you had one)! =8^)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'll buy overrated. I love 'em, but I'd say that's probably true. But I still see them as better than Episode I and II. Episode II had some really cool sequences, but then again, some parts were kinda boring and dissapointing. Comes down to writing and directing.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No one said he had to be a whiny brat.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I like Episode 4 better than Episode 1 and 2 mainly coz the movie depicted dilapidated ships, dirty robots, scoundrels. Less focus on hi-tech wizardry.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'll agree on that one. But as far as the stories are concerned, they're all like chapters in the same book</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Lucas did</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Same writers and basically same director. So what do you think happened?</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Maybe it's that high tech Wizadry stuff I like, the Lightsaber battle at the end of Episode 1 for me is justice enough to put that movie over the others (leaving out the land battles, the Pod racing, etc..). I don't know, I just found that I could never get into any of the older Starwars movies</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Wrong. George Lucas did not direct Empire or Jedi. Lucas did not write Empire (oddly enough, most consider Empire the best). Lucas co-wrote Jedi.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I must have missed the memo.</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well, when you consider that Luke was a whiny brat as well, it kind of fits.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>But you're forgetting one thing: Lucas produced both, so yeah, he might not have DIRECTLY wrote or directed either, but he micromanaged the crap out of it, so it's basically the same shit</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Memo: Lucas wrote and directed Ep. 2, therefore, he completely controlled the actions of the actors. Signed: common sense</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>bwahah!</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Ooooo....</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'm not forgetting a damned thing. Lucas is good as a producing and STORY writing (not script, there's a big difference.) He's GOOD at that. He should STICK to that. He has great ideas, he's just not good at implementing them himself.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No, not really. He has a really "hands off" style of directing. He doesn't provide much actual "direction."</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Not whiny....but stubborn (in the Yoda training scene).</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>No, he was pretty damned whiny and bratty initially, but that seemed to have gone away by Empitre.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Harrison Ford is one of the most overated actors of all time, and he doesn't have anything on Liam Nieson.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Let's see...he made a short complaint about hiring Han Solo as a pilot, had a whine or two with Uncle Ben, had no heart with his training with Yoda.....No comparison. Anakin was a whiner. Luke wasn't even close (too poor and humble to whine like a spoiled child).</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>I'm not saying Anakin wasn't worse, but Luke was a ~lot~ whinier than just those few incidents you mentioned.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Your punishment, Wolfie, is to watch Star Wars Ep4 and Ep5 and then spend two nights at the Playboy mansion. Hope you'll learn your lesson. =8^) (it's harsh, I know)</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Your right. I despised the script from the original Star Wars as well</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Lucas, the same guy we hear constant stories and bitching about regarding how controlling he is? I severly doubt it</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Noooo! That's far too cruel. Only 2 days in the Mansion? You are an evil evil man.</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Go watch your Phantom Meance DVD again. In the behind the scenes feature he doesn't seem to be very hands on in directing.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>This from an interview with Harrison Ford.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Notice I haven't brought up A New Hope - I've long considered the first one weaker than the other two, and I think it is because of Lucas.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Wow, first I've heard of it. General consensus is either the original trilogy was all great with Empire the best story or Jedi the weakest. You're the first I've ever heard who said A New Hope was the weakest of the original series</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I'll check it out after my exam. From all the different articles I've read, he doesn't seem to help the actors out, he just tells them what to do and expects them to get it right and keeps trying 'til they do. Maybe the commentary will be more informative</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, I heard about that in an interview I saw with Ron Howard (American Graffiti). He doesn't seem to help the actors achieve what they want, he just expects them to get it and keeps trying 'til they do</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>He still was whiny, just not as arrogant as Anakin, I'll give him that.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I can see it now......Natalie Portman "What's my motivation, Mr. Lucas?".....George "I just wanna get to the special effects. Just say the lines and be done with it byatch!"</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>BTW....hands off the merchandise. You can look....not touch....or be touched. =8^)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It was an introduction. Some parts of Jedi were really cheesy (Ewoks, even though I like 'em), but there was a lot more interesting things going on in Empire and Jedi.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I consider AotC to have bad acting, but I don't blame the actors. When three really good actors (Samuel L. Jackson, Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor) do only decent jobs at best, I'm looking for a common factor.</div>

[WolfSamurai]

<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>Too late. The touching has begun. I'll be sure to take pictures (and start my own pay-for-porn site with them). :)</div>

[Blotus]

<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Plenty of people like Jedi over ANH. Most people I know.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Whoa, Natalie Portman is NOT a good actress. She was a great child actress, but her talent has not increased at all, which makes her a poor adult actress</div>