Since no one has posted it yet, here's a link to the Return of the Sith trailer. While I question Lucas's ability to direct great movies these days, his ability to put out a completely badass trailer cannot be questioned. "Lord Vader.&quo

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.astercity.net/~jerry/full.mo ... ull.mov</a>

Since no one has posted it yet, here's a link to the Return of the Sith trailer. While I question Lucas's ability to direct great movies these days, his ability to put out a completely badass trailer cannot be questioned. "Lord Vader." "Yes Master." "Rise." *Geek gene activated*</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Awwww shit!</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Goddamn!!!</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Yeah, that teaser is badass. It would be nice if Episode III is when Lucas gets his shit together, but I won't count on it.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>The voice over, the space battles (suprisingly colorful), the wookies, the Emporer with light saber....VADER. All these things scream awesome movie. But I know Lucas has it in him to produce something mediocre out of all that.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>My reaction exactly.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>My reaction exactly.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Starwars fans have an idea of how the story should go, but Lucas already very long ago had an idea of how the story should go; because it is different from theirs, they are dissapointed. I'm a non-Starwars fan, I see all the movies as generally the same sort of thing with the newer ones having much higher production values.</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>After Episode I, I was hoping that Lucas would hand over the reigns to Irvin Kershner again, or even Spielberg perhaps, but oh well. It's a weird feeling when you're really looking forward to something you'll know you'll find a lot of fault with.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>The second trailer to Episode I was badass. I was hooked. The idea that it would not be a good movie was ludicrous. Then, of course, I saw it.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't mean to be a killjoy, but you are aware that scene of Vader is probley just like the last 5 seconds of the movie right?</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 10pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>Yeah, Anakin wont be Vader long in the 3rd film i imagine, but still, way to pop Ish's bubble.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, but it's not like it's a spoiler in any way</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That occurred to me, and I'd like to think that Lucas has enough sense to give the most badass scifi character EVER a decent amount of screen time, but there are two strong exhibits in the case against that assumption.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I just saw most of the originals, and I honestly can not see much difference in the styles of the films other than that the new ones have a much more refined feel to them.

One could say bad acting in the new ones, but you'd be a fool to say the original had better acting. Others say Jar Jar Binks, big deal, the originals had characters like that as well; C-3-PO, that giant dog thing that doesn't talk, that big worm thing, and other stuff.

As I said in my other post, Star Wars fans have their own ideas about how the movies should be done, that is why it is not possible to satisfy them. Similarilly to a lot of Lord of the Rings fans who hated the movies because they weren't how they wanted them to be.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>You're not being a killjoy and yes, the thought had occured to me. I guess it's not a killjoy because that wouldn't make the movie bad IMO.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>LOL! I wasn't aware that I had a bubble to be popped.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>The writing and directing. Lucas wrote and directed the first one, which I consider the weakest. He did not write Empire, nor did he direct it. He co-wrote Jedi, but again, did not direct it.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Exactly. I think most SW fans figured that'd be the way the movie would end.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>The original trilogy had heart that's missing from these. Those were great. These are merely OK (I actually don't hate them like lots of people) And what Kupek says is also true...</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>It's apparently Vader is on display for a long time in this movie. Whether he's in suit or not is almost immaterial. That shot of the Emporer with light saber was pretty sweet too...</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>It's apparent Vader is on display for a long time in this movie. Whether he's in suit or not is almost immaterial. That shot of the Emporer with light saber was pretty sweet too...</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No, I consider being in suit important, because then I don't have to suffer through Hayden Christiansen.</div>

[Torgo]

<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Not to mention that more suit equals more James Earl Jones.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I read something that said there is about 2 minutes of Vader in-suit in the movie.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>bwahaha! touche and well said. :)</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If anything, the newer ones are actually better; they feel more refined as I said above. I can at least stay awake through the whole thing (though I hated the Pod Racer scene in the first one, but there is lots of pointless stuff like that in the older ones as well).

I have heard people try to argue that The Empire Strikes back is a good movie because of the battle of Hoth; what is so special about it? It's a fairly boring part of the movie, it might have been good for those who ate up special effects back in the 80's, but it's not like that scene hasn't been outdone 100-fold in the later movies.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>-Anakin fights evil
-Christopher Lee kills Amadala
-Anakin goes crazy like Lucan did in Chrono Trigger when Ellie gets killed
-Anakin is easily persuaded by Palpateen that there must be order in the universe and that only the darkside will lead to this; during this time he kills Christopher Lee and takes his place as Darth Christianson.
-Anakin comes to terms with this, and decides to kill everyone
-Anakin is destroyed by Obi Wan Shinobi
-Anakin is rebuilt into cyborg form and becomes Darth Vader

Fill in all the rest with cheezy over the top action sequences with blazing special effects, and cheezy drama, then you have a starwars movie.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I don't think it's a disagreement between how the backstory should have gone so much as a disagreement between whether it should have been done at all.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Truthfully, the only real difference I can see is that the prequels don't have Han Solo. Otherwise, the new ones aren't any better or worse. People are just pissed because they see it as Lucas "cashing in" on his creations (which he is)</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>is that there are a few characters I don't like but it's all personal preference.

I didn't really like Jar-Jar Binks (please let him die in Ep III!!!). I don't mind Anakin as long as he's not being whiny. He was awesome when he got angry. I don't think Natalie Portman is doing a very good job acting at all. I have not been impressed with her skills. I think she's one of the weakest actors out of the entire 5 movies so far.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>At the end of the day, there's no way that anyone could have done any story at all without pissing off the purists. And those who bitch still go and see the films and (mostly) buy the DVDs, so why should Lucas do anything differently?</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's how I feel. I think the main problem is that Lucas created movies that were far too similar to the old ones. They didn't "mature" with the audience</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Portman and Christensen were the main reason that Episode 2 was absolutely spectacular. Their cardboard acting was just awful</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>That's "wasn't absolutely spectacular"</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, I figured he would be Vader while hunting down the Jedi, but I'm not so sure we're going to see that. Too bad, I would like to see some Jedi slaugher (if anyone here even considers this to be a spoiler....)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>And again, I think that's a problem of poor writing and directing. I can't speak for nobody-understands-me Christiansen because I haven't seen him in anything else, but Portman is an excellent actress.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Ummm that General from the Cartoon Network shorts is gonna be in the movie isn't he? He was wicked.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Lucas is far too caught up in the Joseph Campbell thing to be able to write a good female role. A Jar-Jar is stupid, but not any more than the Ewoks</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Uhh...artistic integrity?</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Besides, it's not like they did a worse job than Mark Hamil, Leia, and Indiana Jones did in the other three.</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts ... l">General Grievous</a>

Check it, fool</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Jar-jar is a failed attempt at slapstick comic-relief, whereas the Ewoks were just cute. If the Ewoks had thwacked each other on the head with their staffs at random points, or tripped over themselves in oh-so-hilarious ways during battle, then I'd agree with you, but they didn't.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, that's what I thought the third movie would be about. Him slaughtering Jedi.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I think Ewan McGregor is doing a very good job as Obi-Wan Kenobi. The guy who plays Palpatine is doing a fine job.
Samuel L Jackson's acting is kind of dry, imo.

And in Ep IV-VI, I think that Mark Hammill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford did a much better acting job than a few of the main characters in I & II.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I've heard Portman is a good actress (never seen her in anything else personally) which is why the acting in Star Wars has bothered me. It must be Lucas.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Oh, in that case, everything you just said (less action, less plot development, etc). You disagree. That's cool. You're human, so you're allowed to be wrong. :)</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>You figured it out! Now why don't you cash in on this briliant insight and become a multi billionaire like Lucas did. :)</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>I think you're living in childhood fantasy land, dude. The Ewoks were seriously fucking stupid.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Meh, whatever. Jar-Jar tweaks me in a way that the Ewoks don't. I might be rationalizing that, but I don't think I am; I think my reasons are valid.</div>