you know, If our leaders didn't treat us like idiots and the rest of the country weren't brain dead sheep, this war would go down smoother for me...

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I mean there's no doubt for me that Saddam has to go. If he were here in front of me, I'd strangle him myself. And despite my aversion to war, part of me is consoled at least that the Iraqi people will have better lives, that is, after they are bombed to hell.

What irks me is that I highly doubt that Bush and company is in this thing for anything other than personal politics. The fact that he and his party consistantly lies to the public makes this painfully obvious. First you make questionable accusations and you pull "evidence" out of your ass that not only proves nothing, it isn't even legitimate to begin with! Then you make demands on Iraq, which is not a bad thing to comply with your wishes, or else it's war. And when Iraq complies with everything you ask for so far, you say it's too late and you'll bomb them anyway! Freedom my ass. Liberty my ass.

But what bothers me even more is how much of the American population is made up of braindead sheep. You dipshits believe everything your government and media feeds you. It like a redneck plague has taken over the country. Turn off the fucking tv and talk radio. Learn to think for yourself again for Christ's sake. News flash. You views don't HAVE to be defined by party lines!!

Done ranting.

Regards,
Zhuge Liang</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>The reason? These two 5 star general didn't think Iraq was a threat and that war would cause more problems than it solved. And no offense to Donald Rumsfield, but I trust the opinions of two of the best generals in American history more than a career politician. But all this past history has been brushed under the rug, the generals have fallen in with the party line and now the White House presents a unified public front.

And the reasons for the war changed too much for my liking too. First there were the tenuous connections to terrorism. That got dropped real fast and now the focus is on weapons of mass destruction and flounting U.N. resolutions. And why use the resolution of an organization that we're going to ignore anyway as a reason for going to war? In other words, we're picking and choosing which parts of the U.N. we want to pay attention to, and ignoring the rest.

And you can't argue that Bush's Administration and friends benefit in many ways over and beyond the altruistic "destroying terrorism". I'm just not buying it all.

That said, I'm not convinced going to war is absolutely the wrong choice either, just as long we can restrict it to a videogame war with our high tech equipment as much as possible. I don't want to see a knockdown, drag-out urban warfare deal going on over there. I worry more about the future distrust and bad attitudes towards the US we might be fostering with younger generations more than anything else.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>The reason they were against the war? These two 5 star general didn't think Iraq was a threat and that war would cause more problems than it solved. And no offense to Donald Rumsfield, but I trust the opinions of two of the best generals in American history more than a career politician. But all this past history has been brushed under the rug, the generals have fallen in with the party line and now the White House presents a unified public front.

And the reasons for the war changed too much for my liking too. First there were the tenuous connections to terrorism. That got dropped real fast and now the focus is on weapons of mass destruction and flounting U.N. resolutions. And why use the resolution of an organization that we're going to ignore anyway as a reason for going to war? In other words, we're picking and choosing which parts of the U.N. we want to pay attention to, and ignoring the rest.

And you can't argue that Bush's Administration and friends benefit in many ways over and beyond the altruistic "destroying terrorism". I'm just not buying it all.

That said, I'm not convinced going to war is absolutely the wrong choice either, just as long we can restrict it to a videogame war with our high tech equipment as much as possible. I don't want to see a knockdown, drag-out urban warfare deal going on over there. I worry more about the future distrust and bad attitudes towards the US we might be fostering with younger generations more than anything else.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I think the world just needs to abandon capitalism, we already know of a better system that exists, Social Democracy. We also need a more unified world population. With our current technology, we don't really need a working class anymore.</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>In fact here our political leaders are worried about the possible economic ramifications of not supporting the US right now. I'm glad our PM made the descision he did, I do not feel it is in Canada's interest to participate in action against Irag 'at this time'.

After ALL other options are explored I do believe in the use of Force. Examples would be Bosnia and Somalia. But with the dubious reasons we have been given, I believe the descision to remove Saddam by force now was far too hasty.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Now you know how most Arabs think</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Wow, those are my exact sentiments... I'm glad that someone else shares my views.</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>"...why use the resolution of an organization that we're going to ignore anyway as a reason for going to war? ", Well said.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>You said everything except "Squegee your third fucking eye! Errrgh ennngh errrgh ennngh errrgh ennngh!"</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Nixon's spirit will be with us for the rest of our lives whether your are me or Bill Clinton or you or Kurt Cobain or Bishop Tutu or Keith Richards or Aimee Fisher or Boris Yeltsin's daughter or her finance's sixteen year old beer drunk brother with his braided goatee with his whole like a thunder cloud right in front of him.

This is not a generational thing you don't even have to know who Richard Nixon was to be a victim of his ugly nazi experiments. He has poisoned our water for ever. Nixon will be remembered as a classic case of a smart man shitting in his own nest, but he also shit in our nest and that was the crime that history will burn on his memory as a brand. By disgracing and degrading the presidency of the United States, by fleeing the White House like a diseased cur, Richard Nixon broke the heart of the American Dream...</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I could say the same thing about the other side...I'm one of the more liberal and open minded people here, but I say that I'm in support of military action in this instance and I'm suddenly a warmongerer and a conservative sheep...it runs both ways...</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I didn't say or think that. This war is like the abortion issue: both sides of the argument have their reasons and it's not very cut and dry, even if we make it appear to be.</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>...and I know very well that you're neither sheep nor war monger Pete. =) I wasn't referring to you at all. We may disagree on Final Fantasy games but I believe our world views are more similar than different.

Regards,
Zhuge Liang</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>That was directed more at someone who I thought knew me better than that, but I guess I was wrong. He knows who he is...</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Thanks. But since we're there (even if I think our official reasons are less than altruistic), I hope our boys whoop some ass and end it as soon as possible, with as few innocent casualties as possible.</div>