Anyone else see Michael Moore get booed off stage for protesting Bush and the war at the Oscars? Heh, I flipped the channel just in time to catch it.

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Anyone else see Michael Moore get booed off stage for protesting Bush and the war at the Oscars? Heh, I flipped the channel just in time to catch it.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yep. Laughed my ass off. Bunch of people booing, a bunch of people gave him a standing O. I was hoping for a brawl to break out among Hollywood's elite on live TV, but alas, my wish went unrewarded.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>lol now THAT would have been interesting</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>As soon as he spoke the phrase "We are living in fictitious times..." I was thinking to myself "please shut up, please shut up, please shut up, please shut up...GODDAMMIT Michael, you just had to be an ass, didn't you?"</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>If he didn't say something, nobody would.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>hehe he mentioned a ficticious president and a ficticious war...apparantly our president is a holographical representation and the war is just an ellaborate month long 24 hour miniseries event (brought to you by FOX)</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Jesus fuck, you might be onto something...but better not to get me started about reality tv =P</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Good stuff. However, I personally thought the bit about the duct tape, the Pope, and the Dixie Chicks was the best material...</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Anybody have a full transcript. CNN seems to be censoring part of it...</div>

[the Gray]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Michael Moore's acceptance speech

On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan from Canada, I'd like to thank the Academy for this.

I have invited my fellow documentary nominees on the stage with us, and we would like to — they're here in solidarity with me because we like nonfiction.

We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times.

We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious president.

We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.

Whether it's the fictition of duct tape or fictition of orange alerts we are against this war, Mr. Bush.

Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.

And any time you got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up.

Thank you very much.</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: bold 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>As much as I love Michael Moore's work, I start to lose respect for people when I know what their opinion will be before they do...</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>I was only able to read through the first chapter of Stupid White Men before I had to put it down. I mean, there were a lot of facts and important detail in his research that is worth knowing, but his personal bias is so blatant that I can't help but question his assertions most of the time. The same with Al Franken and "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot." I happen to agree that Limbaugh is indeed a big fat idiot but I couldn't read the book nonetheless because it was so skewed. Serves me right for trying to find objectivity in political books though.

Dave Barry is the only political journalist I can trust.

Regards,
Zhuge Liang</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>You read something like that <i>for</i> the bias. Everyone has a bias*. Some people are upfront about their bias, some are not. Michael Moore is. But I'm still skeptical about his work. I've read both of his books, and it's not his bias that bothers me, it's how well he did his homework. Remember when Sine posted something from Stupid White Men? In it, Moore talks about how airline pilots only make $16,000 a year. Some are on food stamps. Sine posts this, everyone balks, so the board here does some homework. Turns out Moore was talking about <i>commuter</i> pilots, but never explicity said so. He was not talking about big airliners, which I think is a reasonable assumption. I've also heard some sketchy things I can't verify about Bowling for Columbine.

I also can't stand some of his humor. His attempts at sarcasm fall flat. When he stuck to his research, it went alright, but sometimes, I'm skeptical about this research.

*This of course implies that all news sources have a bias, and that there is no such thing as objective journalism. Makes sense, if you think about it. It follows from the claim that everyone has a bias, which I think most will grant. This makes every judgement along the journalistic chain a subjective judgement, subject to someone's bias. The editors, who choose which stories to assign and run. The reporters decide exactly how they want to tackle the story, and while they provide "both sides," they determine what questions they ask, they determine what part of the story is relevant, and in the end, they choose how people are represented in the story. Even the headlines can show bias. The key is you have to figure out what bias news sources have, and view their stories accordingly.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Well, you could read some Chomsky, but you'd end up putting yourself to fucking sleep before page 10. God, I wish that man could get some fucking flava in his writing.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>There are some other statements in there that irk me, like blasting at recycling programs. He claims they don't do jack. Come on! That's going beyond conspiracy theories to say that it doesn't help ANYTHING.

And yes, there are a few things wrong on BfC. There's an article about it <a href="http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/1209/ ... 7">here</a> (by Forbes, no doubt).

However, his speech at the Oscars was pretty much right on track. Short, sweet, and to the point. Why people are ranting about it on the news over and over and over again, I don't know.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>My apologies. Yes, the recycling rant was, if I recall correctly, his own anecdotes.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Depends. Often, his slimmer books are easier to digest, as are collections. But, hey, no one said media and political analysis was going to be sexy.</div>

[Zhuge Liang]

<div style='font: ; text-align: left; '>Yes, I am well aware that political books contain bias Kupek. My complaint wasn't that Moore had bias, but rather, the extent of the biased-ness.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Well, it's like I expect him to joke around a bit, but it doesn't happen. It's like how A.C.Clarke refered himself as the best sci-fi writer and Issac A. as the best technical science writer.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>He has a dry sense of humor. Imagine dumping a truck full of salt onto a British comedian.</div>