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  • I know I said no more war posts but I have to link this...it's very angry but also very true if not funny as well

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #6816  by Tessian
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:42 am
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://mirrors.soundspot.tv/war.htm">"Jesus didn't have stealth bombers"</a>

I know I said no more war posts but I have to link this...it's very angry but also very true if not funny as well</div>

 #6817  by ManaMan
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 11:54 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>When logic fails, get angry! Yay!</div>

 #6819  by Tessian
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:50 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>that's exactly what he did-- they can't be reached by logic so he got angry</div>
 #6820  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 12:55 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>All that article is is just another ignorant idiot clinging to the lies and propaganda to make his little insignificant life seam of value to someone. He also is going on what Bush's regime has taught him to believe: One example is that Kuwait has more oil than Iraq? This is not true, in fact Kuwait has no oil, they were drilling it from Iraqi oil fields. Another thing he mentioned is that the argument of the "hippies" (sorry freak, the hippies were from 30 years ago, this is the year 2003) is that the US wants Iraqi oil; that's simply not the case. Rather, the truth is that those who put Bush in power are oil magnates, his father is an oil magnate, and Bush himself used to own oil companies. Iraq due to the sanctions was forced to sell oil for a much cheaper price than Bush's people were able to sell it for, Bush certainly doesn't want that, wouldn't it be better for him to take over that oil and sell it off to his own people for distribution rather than have Saddam selling it off at a cheaper price in competition?

Also what the hell is this about the President of the United States being the leader of the Free World? Whoever thought up that bullshit needs some serious therapy. My country is more free than the USA, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, and many other countries are more free than the USA. The USA isn't even a real democracy. Democracy is also not "Rule by Majority", that is Utilitarianism which is fascism.

He also claims that Iraq will have democracy and free speach after the war? Hardly, last time they had everything taken away from them and millions starved as a result of the brutal sanctions put in place. What they'll have is opression, foreign powers dictating them after blowing up their ancient cities. How would Americans like it if, say, the USSR were still around and decided to "liberate" the US by blowing up its cities and then putting in a communist regime enforced by Moscow? Now by their ideals it might seam right, they could use the poor in the country who hate capitalism as propaganda to help drive the population further into believing in the cause. What will happen is that the rich people in Iraq who do not co-operate with the US will be arrested, and the poor will stay poor. In some African countries there is explicitly no freedom of speach, in China you can get in trouble for talking about religion (the people for the most part are stiffly atheist), in the US you can get carried out in handcuffs for even wearing a shirt that says "Peace on Earth" into a shopping mall.

He then goes on ignoring the fact that the US often has drafted citizens into the military. Also condemns Saddam for attacking Iran and Kuwait when the US government encouraged the war on Iran and OK'd the war on Kuwait. He also goes on and acts as if the US government didn't finance and put the Al Qaeda in power in the first place.

He also believes the economic problems to be trivial, but doesn't even mention that the US economy is in terrible shape, the debt will be up 500 billion dollars in a year (on what is already 6.5 Trillion dollars), the economy will be 300 billion dollars smaller by the years end (this is if things continue going as they have been for the past few years).

He is also a hypocrite, he justifies much larger and far more devastating wars when they are declared by his country, to trump very small and not nearly as devastating wars declared by different countries. That my friends is what we call nationalism, nothing else, Q) What 1945 European nationalistic regime did we fight the largest war in European history to defeat?

Sorry, but I see very little "truth" in this guys arguments. I don't think even the most ignorant people here at the Shrine will buy his argument.</div>

 #6821  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:00 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Ummm, this guy isn't being logical at all. He is essentially just making (or using) baseless assumptions to bash people who he doesn't like, that is not logic. He also used a racist slander in his garbage filled rant, it just goes to show what type of person he is.</div>

 #6823  by Tessian
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:21 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>lol, I was wondering where you were hiding ;)</div>

 #6827  by Flip
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:38 pm
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>HIPPIE! j/k. ^_^</div>

 #6828  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:39 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I'm a 4th year Biology student, there's less than a month left of the semester, you don't want to even think about what I've been doing.</div>
 #6830  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:49 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Seriously, I'm about as far from a hippie as you'll get. I don't do drugs, I'm clean-cut, I listen to pop/rock music and rap, I like sports that aren't beach Volleyball (but I admit I like beach Volleyball! It's not really a hippie sport anymore though. What hippies like Golf and Hockey?), I don't own a van, and I normally have a job =)

Yeah I like John Lenin's music, big deal; the dude was a musical genius.</div>

 #6833  by SineSwiper
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:19 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Biology "practice"?</div>

 #6835  by ManaMan
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 2:21 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You know when seeker's halfway to becoming a doctor it's a sign of the appocolypse. :) j/k</div>

 #6885  by SineSwiper
 Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:43 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Cool. What comic is that from?</div>

 #6890  by Eric
 Wed Mar 26, 2003 2:38 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I've seen it in Rolling Stone magazine...</div>

 #6917  by Kupek
 Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:19 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That comic. Poke around the site.</div>

 #6918  by SineSwiper
 Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:27 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>It's funny how many times you can abuse the same two cells.</div>