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  • Interesting outlook on our healthcare industry

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #87919  by SineSwiper
 Tue May 31, 2005 4:09 am

 #87921  by Tortolia
 Tue May 31, 2005 8:15 am
I'd be vaguely convinced if there was more information about the article. You know, for example, a listing of all the countries cited.

It's one thing to cite those figures and say HOLY SHIT BAD MEDICAL SYSTEM. Given that the handful of countries from the rankings actually cited have significantly lower populations than the US, it's hard to get much of a sense of anything from those death counts.

Still, there's just enough information given there to whip people into a lather, so I suppose the author succeeded at that.

 #87922  by Kupek
 Tue May 31, 2005 8:29 am
It's probably best to read the article itself, and not someone else's summary.

 #87927  by Zeus
 Tue May 31, 2005 10:24 am
Yeah, even though he is doc, I'd rather see the actual results of the study myself. But still, if he's anything close to being unbiased to his interpretation of the results, it's pretty disturbing

 #87951  by SineSwiper
 Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:28 am
Tortolia wrote:I'd be vaguely convinced if there was more information about the article. You know, for example, a listing of all the countries cited.

It's one thing to cite those figures and say HOLY SHIT BAD MEDICAL SYSTEM. Given that the handful of countries from the rankings actually cited have significantly lower populations than the US, it's hard to get much of a sense of anything from those death counts.
It already lists the countries cited. Here's the full list of the countries cited:

The United States of America

Hence, the article is labelled "Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US".
Kupek wrote:It's probably best to read the article itself, and not someone else's summary.
Here's the best I can do. It's in the JAMA, but I don't think they actually have their articles on the net.

 #87960  by Tortolia
 Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:18 am
Read the damn article if you're going to try to use it to make points, Sine.
Of 13 countries in a recent comparison,
among 25 industrialized countries.
Among 29 countries,
The only figures they're giving are for the US, thus there is no context for the death numbers.

Summary of the article or no, it l have no real basis of comparison for the figures, I'm probably going to dismiss them as being blown out of proportion to fit this guy's stance.