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Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #94751  by Flip
 Wed Dec 14, 2005 10:30 pm
So, i left my position at Network Solutions and went back to my old accounting firm, a small regional firm in McLean. I start again on Monday.

Since leaving school i've now worked for a small firm, a big firm, a large privately owned company, and now back at the small firm... in 2 1/2 years. I need to stop job hopping, but i cant seem to sit still at anything. Maybe the profession itself is slowly killing me or maybe i just need to shut the fuck up and be happy? On top of it all, i've been married for 2 years and the whole relationship is revolving around me, my job, and my random fuck-ups along the way... Kim has been a saint, has worked at her job the entire time, and is happy with life while i am usually miserable all the time. The last thing on my list of things i want to do are create drama and be the center of attention, but this last year has been nothing but. I worry more about dissappointing other people than anything. I honestly do think things will work themselves out with time.
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 #94754  by Ishamael
 Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:57 pm
Insane ranting? Hah, I hear nothing of the sort. Who said "When cynicism sets in, an angel gets its wings"? Oh wait, I just made that up.

You like 99% of Americans hate your job...though you realize you are fortunate to have something well paying and most of the world would kill to have it. Still it's not enough. I understand your pain. Most people working away as cogs in the corporate beast understand it. This theme is just under the surface of the movie, "Office Space". What the fuck is all this crap FOR?

A lot of people try to hide this depression by racking up huge debt with cars they can't afford, TVs they can't afford, vacations they can't afford, drug habits, bad relationships, etc. You'll have to excuse my commie rant, but much of this society is centered around consumption and earning more money so that you can buy more things so that you'll need to earn more money to buy more things. That's what keeps this beast called Capitalism going. There's nothing wrong with capitalism per se(it can be a very useful system), but if you don't see it for what it is, then you'll get eaten up by it.

The reality is until you take a long hard look at what you really want out of life, begin asking questions like what do you *really* need to be happy, etc and start taking steps towards achieving that, then you'll remain unhappy. But most people don't see themselves as having any choice with their situations, lead there by The System(get good grades to get a good job to buy stuff and to pump money into your 401K because you'll die on the streets or be bagging groceries otherwise). In their minds, they're stuck. But you can break out.

Thoreau said it best: "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation.". Welcome to the mass of men.

 #94755  by Imakeholesinu
 Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:16 am
You could always start your own business. Even though Mental has warned against it, you work your own hours and make your own appointments. Of course, before you do this you should have a number of connections so you can get work.

Or you could weigh your options. Which job pays the best, has the best advancement opprotunites, and which actually do you enjoy? Find the one that has all three and stick with it.

One more approach is that you can ask yourself "What do you want to do?" Obviously you aren't happy with what you are doing, so what would you like to do? Ideally? Sit back, even if you can see the bottom of the bottle, and think for a second, where do you see yourself 3, 5, 10 years from now? Or where would you like to see yourself?

I'm sure if it means more schooling, Kim would stand behind you.

Just a couple suggestions.

I should learn to heed my own advice though.

 #94767  by Flip
 Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:21 pm
Barret wrote:You could always start your own business. Even though Mental has warned against it, you work your own hours and make your own appointments. Of course, before you do this you should have a number of connections so you can get work.

Or you could weigh your options. Which job pays the best, has the best advancement opprotunites, and which actually do you enjoy? Find the one that has all three and stick with it.

One more approach is that you can ask yourself "What do you want to do?" Obviously you aren't happy with what you are doing, so what would you like to do? Ideally? Sit back, even if you can see the bottom of the bottle, and think for a second, where do you see yourself 3, 5, 10 years from now? Or where would you like to see yourself?

I'm sure if it means more schooling, Kim would stand behind you.

Just a couple suggestions.

I should learn to heed my own advice though.
I really do want to start a game store, i've been researching it for quite a while and think it could work. Risky, though, with long days; but long days that would be fun. What would be less risky is starting a new location of an established franchise of some kind, that would be fun too and is something i am considering.
 #94833  by Zeus
 Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:40 pm
Flip wrote:So, i left my position at Network Solutions and went back to my old accounting firm, a small regional firm in McLean. I start again on Monday.

Since leaving school i've now worked for a small firm, a big firm, a large privately owned company, and now back at the small firm... in 2 1/2 years. I need to stop job hopping, but i cant seem to sit still at anything. Maybe the profession itself is slowly killing me or maybe i just need to shut the fuck up and be happy? On top of it all, i've been married for 2 years and the whole relationship is revolving around me, my job, and my random fuck-ups along the way... Kim has been a saint, has worked at her job the entire time, and is happy with life while i am usually miserable all the time. The last thing on my list of things i want to do are create drama and be the center of attention, but this last year has been nothing but. I worry more about dissappointing other people than anything. I honestly do think things will work themselves out with time.
You're an accountant. It's all about the money and the whole you-always-have-a-job thing. Everyone knows the job sucks ass, especially auditing, which is all about covering your ass so you don't get sued.

But you always have a job....

 #94834  by Zeus
 Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:42 pm
Flip wrote:
I really do want to start a game store, i've been researching it for quite a while and think it could work. Risky, though, with long days; but long days that would be fun. What would be less risky is starting a new location of an established franchise of some kind, that would be fun too and is something i am considering.
For your own store, you will need a good $100k for leasehold improvements, inital stock, advertising, and a bit of a cushion to get you by. If you do it on your own, let me know and I can give you some tips and ideas that worked well for me.

 #94842  by Nev
 Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:45 pm
Flip wrote:
Barret wrote:You could always start your own business. Even though Mental has warned against it, you work your own hours and make your own appointments. Of course, before you do this you should have a number of connections so you can get work.

Or you could weigh your options. Which job pays the best, has the best advancement opprotunites, and which actually do you enjoy? Find the one that has all three and stick with it.

One more approach is that you can ask yourself "What do you want to do?" Obviously you aren't happy with what you are doing, so what would you like to do? Ideally? Sit back, even if you can see the bottom of the bottle, and think for a second, where do you see yourself 3, 5, 10 years from now? Or where would you like to see yourself?

I'm sure if it means more schooling, Kim would stand behind you.

Just a couple suggestions.

I should learn to heed my own advice though.
I really do want to start a game store, i've been researching it for quite a while and think it could work. Risky, though, with long days; but long days that would be fun. What would be less risky is starting a new location of an established franchise of some kind, that would be fun too and is something i am considering.
The warning I posted was more of a humorous vent attempt than a real warning; I'd hope that came across. I've been having a hellacious week at work.

I've been much, much happier than ever since starting this company, with the notable exception of this week, and that's mostly because my partner seems to be wanting me to be less of a partner and more of an employee this week and making business decisions I think have a good chance on severely damaging the company at the same time. *Usually*, working for myself is incredibly inspiring and motivating, since I know my efforts very directly correlate to the money I make. If I make a cool piece of software, I maintain creative control over at, as well as own it in a legal sense (well, technically my partner and I co-own it, but that's still much, much better than having one's employer own it outright).

It does, however, require a ridiculous amount of work. Every business does at startup. I'd say prep for 60 hour weeks, instead of 40, for quite some time, if you do go that route. That being said, I find it to be a thrilling and motivating way of handling one's work life.

 #94854  by Nev
 Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:47 pm
Also, if you go that route, make sure you protect yourself legally. Seriously. Don't depend on trust or whatnot - I made that mistake as well, and it's causing some serious friction between myself and my partner this week.

 #94868  by SineSwiper
 Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:36 pm
Actually, I love my job. I find that I prefer to stay at work than at home, because when I go home, I usually have to go back to dealing with day-to-day house chores (that usually just pile up until we eventually do them). I guess it's because when I'm at work, I'm trying to solve problems and using my head. Mindless tasks annoy me to death.

 #94870  by Zeus
 Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:51 pm
SineSwiper wrote:Actually, I love my job. I find that I prefer to stay at work than at home, because when I go home, I usually have to go back to dealing with day-to-day house chores (that usually just pile up until we eventually do them). I guess it's because when I'm at work, I'm trying to solve problems and using my head. Mindless tasks annoy me to death.
As an accountant, I only have mindless tasks. It's my DS and other stuff that I entertain myself that exercises my brain

 #94905  by Ishamael
 Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:22 am
SineSwiper wrote:Actually, I love my job. I find that I prefer to stay at work than at home, because when I go home, I usually have to go back to dealing with day-to-day house chores (that usually just pile up until we eventually do them). I guess it's because when I'm at work, I'm trying to solve problems and using my head. Mindless tasks annoy me to death.
You're fortunate to work for a place that provides you the atmosphere for you to enjoy your job. A lot of people have to deal with asshole/incompetent bosses and coworkers, absurd schedules, and pathetic work environments. They may love what they do, but they're put in situations where enjoying work becomes impossible.