Let me know when the site has frames set up again and I'll start reading/posting.

[Tortolia]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Let me know when the site has frames set up again and I'll start reading/posting.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>...is that supposed to be a threat? Wtf was so magnificant about the stupid frames?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Easier navigation.</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I did like the frames better for navigation. I'm not sure what all this LINK stuff is though.</div>

[Sephy]

<div style='font: 12pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Thats kind of silly...like no site on the net uses frames anymore..though I would prefer links to a dropdown box.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Just part of a 7-year-old HTML 4.0 standard that IE still doesn't fully support.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It's just easier to navigate</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Noooo! Come back!</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>not enough of a reason to go all childish like this though.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I don't get it. Why are you against providing something several people want?</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I really don't see how you call yourself humans if you can't adapt to a simple change like that. "Wah, wah, wah, I don't have my frames, anymore, so I'm going to pout until you give them to me. Wah, I have to use two clicks instead of one to get to another forum."

Jesus...I slave over the script, practically ignoring my wife for the last two weeks, and this is the thanks I get? Fuck you, if that's the case.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I don't agree with some of your choices, but I greatly appreciate the work you've put in. You don't take criticism well. Someone asking for a particular feature or not liking a new one is not an insult.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Dude this is your own personal playpen thing, just because you change stuff doesn't mean we should roll over and automatically like it either.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>and on the flip side why does Sine have to cater to everyone's personal preference? Being as childish as to leave because something underused like frames wasn't kept. What is Tort, 5?</div>

[Lox]

<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Personally, I feel the frames were easier but I am capable of using the new setup and don't find it that big of a deal to adjust, so I did.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, GOODBYE!!!</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>Asking? More like a childish demand to me.</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>You're married? I must've missed something....</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Others have brought it up.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No, but he calls Seraphina his wife because he thinks he might as well be married.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>others that simply say "it was easier but I can live without it" I'm all for being customizable but I don't think the work it requires is worth it</div>

[VicRattlehead]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>***NEWSFLASH***   who gives a flying fuck......does the extra click make your finger tired or something?</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: 10pt Baskerville; text-align: left; '>Good luck in the business world with that attitude...this place has just about become the exact opposite of what it was...it's ugly here...</div>

[Shellie]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Yeah, we're pretty much married but havent gone thru the motions yet. The only thing holding us back is our jobs.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>He ignores our requests, that's the point I think.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Your point has lots to do with Tort's approach, and little to do with the point I made.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>And if Kupek, G-man, or Esque are reading this, I've got this to say to them" If you don't like it here, get the hell out. The Shrine is not your priviledge, it's only here because of Sine, you have no right to whine or bitch about anything. Grow the hell up.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>You have an amazing ability to misunderstand a person's intentions.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>what point? we all know Sine can't take criticism but this time from what I understand frames weren't kept up because it's not supported anymore and would more time and effort to bring back then it's worth</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>so if I go up to my boss and say "I'm quitting and never coming back if you don't give me paid lunch break" he'll give it to me instead of laughing in my face and showing me the door?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It would take about 20 lines of HTML, one extra file, and another link on the main page. It's easy. And if you can't figure out what my point is by reading my posts, I'm really not going to bother explaining it again.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>like I said, I'm all for catering to the customer but Tort pretty much made it so Sine can't put frames in now cause then he'd look like he's giving in to childish threats</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I don't think Sine had any intention of using frames again, and I don't think it has anything to do with Tort.</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: 10pt Baskerville; text-align: left; '>I have the right to speak my mind, whether anyone likes it or not...and if I want to get pissed when a regular poster makes a simple request and is treated like shit because of it, I think someone should say something. Maybe I'll get lucky and just get banned by big brother Sine...</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: 10pt Baskerville; text-align: left; '>Sorry, but you've got it backwards. Sine is the one presenting a product (his script). If a potential client asks for a certain feature and he tells them to basically fuck off, he will lose business.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>he didn't originally, no-- but now Tort's made it a near guarantee they'll never return</div>

[Shellie]

<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>I understand Tortolia's (and GMJ's) intentions just fine. That's the problem. I don't respond well to threats.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I understand Tortolia's (and GMJ's) intentions just fine. That's the problem. I don't respond well to threats.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It's more of a boycott, you know you love our company, otherwise you wouldn't complain when it's dead on the weekends. :)</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>This site is here because of Sine, you're nothing more than a worthless ingrate.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I understand your intentions quite clearly, you have a problem with a very trivial feature. What I don't understand i why you three whine and bitch about every single trivial thing and fail to realize that you really have absolutely no right to do so.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Worthless Ingrate?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>It's not that trivial since a noticable amount of people have spoken up about it......We've all been coming here for years, to say we have "absolutely no right" to express our opinions is ridiculous.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I was referring to mine.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I'm trying to help Sine improve the script. Stop trolling.</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Frames has nothing to do with the script, and I've already said my reasons for not including text links for the forums.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Notice that I have not said I thought frames were needed. What I have commented on is script stuff. I've concluded that the shrine is not a good way of communicating with you, so if I want to explain it further, I'll email you.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>This site is still populated because of me. ME! I am The One. Sine is the Architect. Daily Stuph is Zion. Tess is the one with the different outfit in the "Away Team".</div>

[EsquE]

<div style='font: 10pt Baskerville; text-align: left; '>Why was it considered a threat? You've had frames in every previous version...is it possible he was just wondering when they would be set-up? You over-reacted...</div>